Processed Issues87

This page shows a list of issues for journal.tinkoff.ru that were approved or declined by our admins.

Template #4 Issue #2
May 24, 2017
Broken table formatting
Accepted by admin
Template #8 Issue #1
May 26, 2017
This should be a caption of preceding image
Andre Macareno
There is no way to exactly identify that it's a caption. If we will count all particular cases like this, we will get a huge, no, HUGE template.
Accepted by admin
Template #9 Issue #2
May 26, 2017
Broken table formatting
Accepted by admin
Template #7 Issue #2
May 26, 2017
This should be a caption of preceding image
☄️
No, it's an aside block attached to a paragraph, not the image
Accepted by admin
Template #14 Issue #1
Jun 15, 2017
☄️
Well.
Completely unrelated.
Declined by admin
Template #14 Issue #2
Jun 19, 2017
This is not exist in original
☄️
Hm, it's invisible for some reason. None of other templates does better, though. The only one that handles the page at all has this text too, but unmarked.
Accepted by admin
Template #15 Issue #1
Jun 19, 2017
Simple article
Accepted by admin
Template #16 Issue #1
Jun 19, 2017
This is unreadable.
Accepted by admin
Template #14 Issue #3
Jun 19, 2017
If this title - u miss subtitle.
☄️
Hm, missed this somehow. The only other template that handles the page at all does exactly the same, though.

Btw, this text is in the description in the Link Preview, so not completely lost at least.
Accepted by admin
Template #14 Issue #4
Jun 19, 2017
merged text.
☄️
This is due to constraints of IV format. No information is lost though. Line breaks are preserved. None of templates handles this better.
Accepted by admin
Formatting must be preserved
Template #17 Issue #3
Jun 19, 2017
merged text. difficult to read.
Accepted by admin
Formatting must be preserved.
Template #14 Issue #5
Jun 19, 2017
Catalog
☄️
It's not. It's a link to single a particular article. It's just that when you scroll the page in the browser, more articles are loaded. Note that the URL changes during this (the whole URL, not just anchor part). So there's no problem with it.
Declined by admin
Template #16 Issue #3
Jun 19, 2017
Catalog
Declined by admin
Template #14 Issue #6
Jun 19, 2017
I don't see this text in original page.
☄️
It's a block to the right of the main text. You'll see it if you open the page in a browser.
These blocks are usually contain related information.

The only other template that handles the page removes the text and leaves the image, which doesn't make sense.
Declined by admin
This content is part of the article. These seem like "read more" articles. Hence they are optional.
Template #17 Issue #4
Jun 19, 2017
What is this?
Accepted by admin
Although this is part of the article itself, it's hard to understand because the text for this image is removed. The context is missing.
Template #23 Issue #1
Sep 5, 2017
Not sure is this because the author, but I don't see this elements in the original
Artur Borisovich
It's not viewed because the markup on mobile view hides this content, but it is visible on the desktop. What do you think about it, I should hide it or no?
Accepted by admin
Rudimentary content should be removed
Template #23 Issue #2
Sep 5, 2017
Table layout is broken
Accepted by admin
Template #25 Issue #1
Sep 6, 2017
OpenGraph images for this kind of articles are *always* textual & repeat article title. So IV cover generated from og:image just duplicate title in this case & should be removed
Accepted by admin
Template #27 Issue #1
Feb 4, 2019
Rudimentary content not removed
Accepted by admin
Template #28 Issue #1
Feb 4, 2019
Rudimentary content not removed
Accepted by admin
Template #32 Issue #1
Feb 4, 2019
iv does not generate despite its need for one
Accepted by admin
Template #31 Issue #1
Feb 4, 2019
With this missed content we have a personal opinion in the article. The Instant View template doesn't have blocks with photos, names and short persons describing and it is lost original point of view.
Accepted by admin
Template #33 Issue #1
Feb 5, 2019
Double block detected. Original article has one block.
Accepted by admin
Template #35 Issue #1
Feb 5, 2019
Hello! The URL https://journal.tinkoff.ru/selected/zhkh/ like the URL https://journal.tinkoff.ru/selected/ contains severeal articles grouped by common characteristics. May be that is not an artcle itself but exactly that is collection of articles useful for customer/clients and different people. Please, check these URLs for taking detailed information about them.
Evgeniy Solovev
"No Instant View available"
Declined by admin
Template #34 Issue #1
Feb 5, 2019
It's essential
Дмитрий
Those are additional links on external resources. In the desktop version they are located in the right sidebar, out of the article content.
Accepted by admin
Template #34 Issue #2
Feb 5, 2019
There are not blockquotes
Дмитрий
Yes, there is a blockquote. Check the source.
Declined by admin
These parts of the article are quotes and the template properly handles this case.
Template #34 Issue #3
Feb 5, 2019
related posts
Accepted by admin
Template #36 Issue #1
Feb 5, 2019
Hi there!

Marked fragments are not pullquotes. Please check for example Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull_quote): "Pull quotes need not be a verbatim copy of the text being quoted; depending on a publication's house style, pull quotes may be abbreviated for space or paraphrased for clarity, with or without indication"

You are using pullquote in your template in 2 cases (however that is rong):
1) With <a> tags that are placed aside - that is a part of another article(s)
2) With similar sense of the similar (just similar) text - e.g. text into aside blocks
Declined by admin
It's acceptable to format these blocks as pullquotes in this case
Template #34 Issue #4
Feb 6, 2019
Hi there!

The URL https://journal.tinkoff.ru/selected/experiments like the URL https://journal.tinkoff.ru/selected/eda/ contains articles grouped by common characteristics. May be that is not an artcle itself but exactly that is a collection of articles. Please check these URLs for taking detailed information about them.

By the way these pages marked as article by author/company and listed in sample difficult links directory.

"No Instant View available"
Дмитрий
This kind of pages is not static by its nature - articles can be added and removed from the list. By the way, these pages don't actually carry any own content, just a list of links.
Declined by admin
This page must not generate an IV: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#2-1-pages-with-dynamic-content
Template #36 Issue #2
Feb 7, 2019
This is a page with quiz. It impliesinteraction with the user.
Accepted by admin
Template #37 Issue #1
Feb 7, 2019
This is a page with quiz. It impliesinteraction with the user.
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi!

There is no way automatically to detect whether page is article or page is quiz. That is for author decision. Author marked the page like article so IV was generated correctly. Furthermore the content is static and page was placed to "sample difficult links".
Accepted by admin
Surely there must be a way to detect if the article has a quiz or not, in any case this page is not suitable for IV. The links that are in sample difficult links does not mean that all of them must generate IV, they are links that have had problems in other templates either because they generate IV or not.
Template #37 Issue #2
Feb 7, 2019
All the authors are missing, changing the meaning of the article
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

The author of the article is one. Other persons are interviewees.

In your meaning all of these people had written that article. But in fact that article had been written based on experience of these people.
Accepted by admin
Template #37 Issue #3
Feb 7, 2019
This is not static page. This is the type of list that admin can add or remove articles from
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

Author marked this page like article. Even author name and published time is there.
Accepted by admin
Template #38 Issue #3
Feb 7, 2019
this is 'category-like' page
Дмитрий
So what's the problem? This is a dynamic page, so there is no IV for it.
Declined by admin
Template #37 Issue #4
Feb 7, 2019
Related articles and second author's name missing
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

What kind of related articles are missing?
What is the second author name?
Please highlight it.
Declined by admin
Template #38 Issue #4
Feb 7, 2019
Title repeated
Дмитрий
This is a valid og:image cover
Accepted by admin
The image displayed is for sharing. Please use the original cover image, maybe could be found in the div tag with class: article-header__wallpaper
Template #37 Issue #5
Feb 7, 2019
Repeated article title
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

Where is repeated article title? Please highlight it.
Accepted by admin
Template #38 Issue #5
Feb 7, 2019
Inappropriate - cover image without background???
Дмитрий
It is debatable. The cover image is taken from the original article, but the background is another image which can't be merged with the foreground. Is it better to just delete a cover, than to have one on a white background? I don't think so.
Declined by admin
Template #39 Issue #1
Feb 8, 2019
Missing cover,
Accepted by admin
Template #47 Issue #1
Feb 11, 2019
This page gives an error, but it must not generated at all
Accepted by admin
This survey requires interaction. No need to generate an IV here.
Template #47 Issue #2
Feb 11, 2019
Not generated for target page
Accepted by admin
It's possible to generate an IV for this article.
Template #50 Issue #4
Feb 13, 2019
Interactive tests doesn't supported by IV
Accepted by admin
Template #50 Issue #5
Feb 13, 2019
One of selected element must remove.
Accepted by admin
Template #50 Issue #6
Feb 13, 2019
Second paragraph is rudimentary, since its duplicate first one.
Accepted by admin
Template #54 Issue #2
Feb 13, 2019
Cover is missed
Азизбек Жонибеков
Cover is not always the same. There are a lot of issues with cover. In some cases if you use white png image as cover it would disappear in the white background. So in order tackle this problem I think it's better to leave page without cover
Declined by admin
Duplicated issue: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/journal.tinkoff.ru/template54/issue1/
Template #54 Issue #3
Feb 14, 2019
Elements are duplicated
Accepted by admin
Template #56 Issue #6
Feb 15, 2019
Hi there!

There are no images in your template.
Accepted by admin
Template #55 Issue #6
Feb 15, 2019
Duplicating blocks.
Accepted by admin
Template #68 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
Hi there!

Missed anchors.

From rules: "Anchor links must work properly on IV page if anchor links exist in the source."
Accepted by admin
Template #70 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
Hi there!

Missed anchors.

From rules: "Anchor links must work properly on IV page if anchor links exist in the source."
Accepted by admin
Template #71 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
There are hints in the original on the desktop layout.
Those hints are exactly required blocks, mentioned in the previous paragraph.
So it's essential content.
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

These "hints" are confusing. That is not an essential content.

Furthermore in the mobile version there are no hints.
Declined by admin
The author is right — mobile browser on original source page doesn't show the hints at all.
Template #68 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
There are hints in the original on the desktop layout.
Those hints are exactly required blocks, mentioned in the previous paragraph.
So it's essential content.
Declined by admin
It is acceptable to omit these hints. Mobile browser on original source page doesn't show the hints at all.
Template #73 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
According rools there must be an anchor
Accepted by admin
Template #68 Issue #3
Feb 16, 2019
Имя автора дублируется
Accepted by admin
Template #70 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Необходимо
Accepted by admin
Templates 71, 73, 75, 79 and 80 handle this case.
(Please comment issues in English.)
Template #75 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
Extra item
Tagir
That's related articles.
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Extra item
Tagir
Related article.
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #3
Feb 16, 2019
Extra item
Tagir
related articles
Declined by admin
Template #73 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Related articles block is missing.
Consider them related based on:
"Related Articles:
- Are thematically related to the current article.
- Lists of related articles are (relatively) static (a news item may eventually get an extra link to the newest piece on the topic, but this just adds another item to an otherwise static list)."
Declined by admin
Since they are not included in the IV:

"We will not accept issues on whether or not links formatted as “Related articles” are thematically related enough or static enough."
Template #71 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Related articles block is missing.
Consider them related based on:
"Related Articles:
- Are thematically related to the current article.
- Lists of related articles are (relatively) static (a news item may eventually get an extra link to the newest piece on the topic, but this just adds another item to an otherwise static list)."
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

That is not related articles block. First link leads to dynamic list of articles and not a related article itself. Just check that.

Furthermore here related articles has been added.
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #4
Feb 16, 2019
This content does not apply to publication
Tagir
Related article.
Declined by admin
Template #70 Issue #3
Feb 17, 2019
these links must be as related article
Accepted by admin
Template #73 Issue #3
Feb 17, 2019
removed related article
Declined by admin
The IV does include the related article in <related> block.
Template #71 Issue #3
Feb 18, 2019
Declined by admin
Template #73 Issue #4
Feb 18, 2019
In the original article there are captions for the image.
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #5
Feb 18, 2019
In the original article there are captions for the image.
Declined by admin
Template #71 Issue #4
Feb 18, 2019
This unit refers to related
Declined by admin
Template #73 Issue #5
Feb 18, 2019
This unit refers to related
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #6
Feb 18, 2019
This unit refers to related
Declined by admin
Template #75 Issue #7
Feb 18, 2019
Extra block
Declined by admin
Template #81 Issue #1
Feb 18, 2019
This is the bubble for image in desctop version http://joxi.ru/l2Z10KNHzljMqm. Even on site those blocks not shown in mobile wersion http://joxi.ru/Y2LynlXS7x1V5A
Their presence will confuse users, because the lead to nowhere
Accepted by admin
Template #75 Issue #8
Feb 18, 2019
These hints on a desktop browser draw on the page to point each text to specific sections of the image.

IV is not able to support this, so by showing these hints in a regular paragraph like this, the hints do not make sense anymore.

Viewing this page on a mobile browser will not display these hint texts either.
Accepted by admin
Template #71 Issue #5
Feb 18, 2019
Those headers have anchors.
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

What kind of anchors? And where that anchors are located?
Declined by admin
Template #71 Issue #6
Feb 18, 2019
Those blocks looks like a blockquote.
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

These blocks marked as not blockquote. But that is seemed to be due to context. Agree.
Accepted by admin
Template #71 Issue #7
Feb 18, 2019
This is a list
Accepted by admin
Template #71 Issue #8
Feb 18, 2019
Dupplicate content. On top is from desctop version, bottom is from mobile.
Evgeniy Solovev
Well yeah. Doubled :(
Accepted by admin
Template #86 Issue #1
Feb 18, 2019
Missing last paragraph and related links block.
Baron Suslin
The block of related links is rendered separately and formatted in accordance with the rules.
The last paragraph refers to the links of related articles.
Declined by admin
It's optional.
Template #86 Issue #2
Feb 19, 2019
Related article in text are missing. Header in marked area is not a header.
Table in highlighted area is missing.
Accepted by admin
The reporter's template handles this case better.
Template #88 Issue #1
Feb 19, 2019
According rules this is not a slideshow
"Slideshows are required only if the source article shows several photos or other media as a slideshow or gallery. If this is the case, do the following:"
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-2-3-galleries-and-slideshows
In original site this is not a sligeshow or a gallery.
Tagir
There is a slideshow in the original.
The div even has class "fotorama", which is a jquery plugin for slideshow.
For reference: http://fotorama.io/
Declined by admin
Template #88 Issue #2
Feb 19, 2019
This is a dynamic block of links. If you see the link in cached IV is not first anymore http://joxi.ru/n2YnGLkhbk8VgA so its must be removed
Tagir
According to rules:
"Related articles:
Are thematically related to the current article.
May also be located on a different website.
Lists of related articles are (relatively) static (a news item may eventually get an extra link to the newest piece on the topic, but this just adds another item to an otherwise static list)"

Which is exactly this block. It is thematically related, relatively static block of links, when occasionally authors would add a new link. It is as static as "More on this topic" ("Еще на эту тему") block below.

What you show there on screenshot is a misunderstanding.
Take a closer look, please. The first link in the IV is a link taken from header of the block. Therefore, all the links have index i + 1, compared to the original. This is because the header of related block cannot be a link itself.

There is no restriction on whether related article leads to an IV page or not. In fact,
"We designed the RelatedArticles block to deliver a better IV-reading experience to the users. The IV eng
Accepted by admin
"Related articles:
...
Lists of related articles are (relatively) static (a news item may eventually get an extra link to the newest piece on the topic, but this just adds another item to an otherwise static list)" means that links themselves are list.

In this case these links lead to dynamic pages, that won't generate IV. There's no sense to format the block as related.
Tagir
There is only one link in the block, which leads to a dynamic list. Others lead to an article. If that's the problem, you totally failed to make it clear.
Declined by admin
Template #86 Issue #3
Feb 21, 2019
Hi there!

There are no line breaks and/or paragraph separation.

From issue (from another site and template): https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/patient.info/template39/issue2/
Accepted by admin
The reporter's template handles this case better.
Template #88 Issue #5
Feb 21, 2019
Heading formatting is missing, <mark> element is not relevant here
Tagir
Formatting is there. IV format subheader without bold.
Mark element is used exactly aacording to IV format. For marked text.
Declined by admin
It's optional.
Template #90 Issue #1
Feb 21, 2019
Subheading is transformed into regular paragraph
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

First of all it looks like excatly block in the article - marked text, some parts of text are bold. So there is no problem.

Check the similar issue from another my template: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/patient.info/template43/issue5/

By the way in Telegram it looks pretty good.
Declined by admin
Template #91 Issue #1
Feb 21, 2019
This is not gallery or a slideshow in original article. According ruls https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-2-3-galleries-and-slideshows
This can't be a slideshow
Арсений Габдуллин
Indeed, it is a gallery using JS Fotorama plugin (using slider logic & images thumbnails below viewport).
The core mechanics is to group semantically similar multiple photos/documents in single frame
Declined by admin
It's a gallery in the article.
Template #91 Issue #2
Feb 21, 2019
Titles for related articles in body of article are not correct.
Арсений Габдуллин
Otherwise article title will be duplicated in Related block header & article item hyperlink
Declined by admin
The article title will be duplicated.
Template #90 Issue #2
Feb 21, 2019
Not generated
Evgeniy Solovev
Hi there!

The page is the quiz.

Check issue:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/journal.tinkoff.ru/template37/issue1/

Check Oxford Dictionary for quiz definition:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/quiz
Declined by admin
Template #96 Issue #1
Oct 12, 2020
Не мог понять этот вопрос. Надо рассматривать этот сайт?
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