Processed Issues32

This page shows a list of issues for kurir.rs that were approved or declined by our admins.

Template #5 Issue #1
Feb 6, 2019
Missing the kicker.

Missing related articles - they seem to be related to the article, despite being named "do not miss". I checked this on multiple different articles.
Accepted by admin
Kicker is required.

Related Articles are also required now, see here:

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles
Template #10 Issue #4
Feb 9, 2019
Missing published date / time
Missing author
Missing instagram posts
Accepted by admin
Template #12 Issue #1
Feb 12, 2019
Gallery can be show
Љубиша Беговић
Yes, slideshow on galley view page (.*/media/nnnnn) can be shown separately, you are right.
But IV fot that pages not necessary because all relevant content (including all figcaption and photo credits) from gallery view page (slideshow) are already shown on main gallery page (as slideshow).

Users open gallery view page (.*/media/nnnnn) with a click / touch on thumbnails on main gallery page.
And they're get same content already currently presented on main IV gallery page.

On your template (main gallery page) (https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template13/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstil.kurir.rs%2Ffoto-galerije%2F99729%2Fnajgore-haljine-na-crvenom-tepihu-ruzne-najruznije-odvratne-foto) you don't have a direct link to page /media/nnnnn slideshow so IV for /media/nnnnn is reduntant.
For reduntant content IV not needed.

If you add href to images on main gallery page, users must open image and touch long link bellow to view same content (on /media/nnnnn) which already exist on slideshow on main gallery p
Declined by admin
Template #12 Issue #2
Feb 12, 2019
there are unsupported videoplayer so this page mustn't generate.
Accepted by admin
Yes the source page has an embedded video.
Template #13 Issue #1
Feb 12, 2019
if this unsupported videoplayer will be supported in the future this page will changed format so keep calm and stay on original format
Yuriy
My template handled this situation: No Instant View available
EMBED_NOT_SUPPORTED
Declined by admin
Template #13 Issue #2
Feb 13, 2019
Unused button added
Yuriy
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-3-channel-links
Declined by admin
Template #13 Issue #3
Feb 13, 2019
Images is missed
Yuriy
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles
Declined by admin
Template #13 Issue #4
Feb 13, 2019
Paragraph not formated properly. All as one paragraph.
Yuriy
But in original page this paragraph's in one <p>. I have not found such a case anymore.
Accepted by admin
In the original there are <br> that have been removed by the template. Missing line breaks create reading difficulties
Template #13 Issue #5
Feb 13, 2019
IV must be generated for this page.
Yuriy
contain unsupported video player
Declined by admin
Template #17 Issue #1
Feb 14, 2019
Missing too much elements from original page:
- date and time
- author
- photo credit
- instagram posts
- lead text
Accepted by admin
Template #16 Issue #1
Feb 15, 2019
Photo author from image caption has been placed as article's author
Љубиша Беговић
Look better and you will see that's not image caption.

Look at original page - END of text content (ABOVE "Kliknite za sledeću vest") and related souce code - you will see that they (kurir.rs) properly (technicaly) marked that as author. That's their (kurir.rs) content and they marked that as author. Anyone can't filter article by article separately and fix their content on his own way.

Anyway, that's their content and that's properly marked as author.

Why is this same as photo caption? - That's their thing, I can't change original content on my way.

From page (END of content):

Autor: Foto: Reuters
Kliknite za sledeću vest


From source code - look at source code and check this please:

<div class="artSource">
<span itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person">
Autor: 
<span itemprop="name">
Foto: Reuters
</span>
</span>
</div>
Declined by admin
Until someone can demonstrate that it is possible to reliably extract a more sensible author reliably here, this issue will not be accepted.

In this case, we see "Autor: Foto: Reuters" but I think here the value for "Autor" is blank. It does not mean that the article is written by "Foto: Reuters"...

By the way, in such cases where the Author attribute makes no sense at all, it is okay (and perhaps better) to omit the value entirely

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name
Template #20 Issue #1
Feb 15, 2019
"Kommentar dana" is not an author, it means "the comment of the day" or something like that. This would better be omitted as a category kicker
Accepted by admin
Template #16 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
Should not have IV. Page contain unsupported video.
Љубиша Беговић
That is BONUS VIDEO - and that's not essential part of articles and not really related to content of articles.
Please look at many others articles, you will see that BONUS video not related to content above (if you don't know Serbian language use any translator, like Google Translate).
Kurir.rs added SAME BONUS to a few other articles, that's their trick for keep users on site one more minute.

That Bonus video appears on it's own article:
https://www.kurir.rs/planeta/2850413/video-tramp-izgurao-crnogorskog-premijera-americki-predsednik-pokazao-ko-je-gazda

And Telegram IV not generated for that article because video is essential part of it (it's same case for all others links below).
See this page on my template:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template16/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kurir.rs%2Fplaneta%2F2850413%2Fvideo-tramp-izgurao-crnogorskog-premijera-americki-predsednik-pokazao-ko-je-gazda

For example:
https://www.kurir.rs/sport/ostali-sportovi/3203197/napadnuti-vaterpolista-zvezde-u-soku-d
Declined by admin
Agreed, these videos at the bottom of most articles are NOT essential content, they can be removed and it is perfectly acceptable to generate IV in such cases
Template #17 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
Should not have IV. Page contain unsupported video.
Declined by admin
Please see: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template16/issue2/

However, this template fails to remove some extra text at the bottom
Template #16 Issue #3
Feb 15, 2019
Wrong site name at Link Preview
Љубиша Беговић
Look at the site_name in head (for subdomain stil.kurir.rs, you will see next:

<meta property="og:site_name" content="stil.kurir.rs"/>

That's official name for this separated subdomain. I can't add site_name at my own discretion.

And that can't be "Kurir" as you do - where you find that? You added your own content at your own discretion.

Telegram IV sistem also catch site_name from that meta tag.

"The site_name property must include the correct name of the website. If the webmaster includes unnecessary data (e.g. ‘Site {sitename}’) or mixes the site name with the article title, your template must take care of this."
Declined by admin
Template #17 Issue #3
Feb 15, 2019
WROOONG :D
Missed content, datetime, author.
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue, and it is very silly to say things like "WROOONG :D" - what is the point exactly?
Template #20 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
Missed datetime. wrong author
Accepted by admin
Template #16 Issue #4
Feb 15, 2019
Wrong author it more better at my template
Љубиша Беговић
You added "Kurir" as author, that your own content, that not presented as author anywhere in article or source code.
We can't add something as author if we think that it is better looking.
Author must be used as it is presented on original page.

At the end of content:
Autor: Foto: Facebook

Look at source code - Kurir properly marked this as author, and it's their decision, we can't add something that we think better looking:
<div class="artSource">
<span itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" class="">
Autor: 
<span itemprop="name">
Foto: Facebook
</span> </span>
</div>
Declined by admin
Until someone can demonstrate that it is possible to reliably extract a more sensible author reliably here, this issue will not be accepted.

In this case, we see "Autor: Foto: Facebook" but I think here the value for "Autor" is blank. It does not mean that the article is written by "Foto: Facebook"...

By the way, in such cases where the Author attribute makes no sense at all, it is okay (and perhaps better) to omit the value entirely

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name
Template #17 Issue #4
Feb 15, 2019
1) Missed imgecap
2) it's not an author
Accepted by admin
Template #19 Issue #1
Feb 15, 2019
it's not an author, check my template and source of page

<span itemprop="publisher" itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization" itemscope="" hidden="">
<div itemprop="logo" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject">
<img itemprop="url" src="//www.kurir.rs/resources/images/header/logo.png"><!-- and Google probably requires some more properties here, e.g. "height" and "width" --></div>
<span itemprop="name">Kurir</span>
</span>
Yuriy
no, see element
<div class="artSource"><span itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person">Autor: <span itemprop="name">Foto: Facebook</span></span></div>
Declined by admin
Until someone can demonstrate that it is possible to reliably extract a more sensible author reliably here, this issue will not be accepted.

In this case, we see "Autor: Foto: Facebook" but I think here the value for "Autor" is blank. It does not mean that the article is written by "Foto: Facebook"...

By the way, in such cases where the Author attribute makes no sense at all, it is okay (and perhaps better) to omit the value entirely

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name
Template #20 Issue #3
Feb 15, 2019
Missed figcap
Wrong author
Accepted by admin
Template #19 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
1) It's not a caption of gallery
2) it's not a caption of slides, it's caption of slideshow. I checked it everywhere.
Yuriy
this is <cite> of photo, may be different. For example, see last photo https://stil.kurir.rs/foto-galerije/97423/zimska-idila-8-destinacija-za-ljubitelje-snega
Declined by admin
Template #19 Issue #3
Feb 15, 2019
It's not a caption of gallery
Yuriy
it's a caption of photo! May be different, https://stil.kurir.rs/foto-galerije/97423/zimska-idila-8-destinacija-za-ljubitelje-snega
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue
Template #22 Issue #1
Feb 15, 2019
Accepted by admin
Agreed, other templates have demonstrated that it is entirely possible to generate IV for these pages. The video is non-essential content that is not part of the article - so by removing it we are not losing anything important

See also: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template16/issue2/
Alex
Admins, How do you determine what is important and what is not for the user? I do not see the logic. What are the criteria? Somewhere you reject the templates if the video is cut, and somewhere you approve. Why?

And your wrote:
2. IV Targets: Must NOT Generate
Pages with unsupported embedded content that can't be displayed

6.4.2 Video/Audio from unsupported players
Otherwise, mark the object with the @unsupported function.

You never write that I can just cut out some of the unsupported content.
Accepted by admin
The reason for different decisions will be because each domain is different, and the way they lay out pages and how important the videos are to the content differs.

In this PARTICULAR case, this domain includes "Bonus Videos" at the bottom of articles - which are not part of the article content - and are simply there to increase engagement. Such content is not necessary and as long as it can be safely removed (which other templates have shown is possible), then it should be.

Of course, if one of the videos on this site is in the middle of the article, and not preceded by the "Bonus Video" text then it is to be considered part of the article content, and therefore should be marked as @unsupported and no IV should be generated.

It is only because these videos are clearly not related to the article content, that we recommend removing them
Template #22 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
NOTE:
This is explain continuation for this issue - I must on this way, because all is important for this specific case:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template16/issue2/

Another example
https://kurir.rs/sport/ostali-sportovi/3162783/mik-sumaher-ide-ocevim-stopama-sin-najboljeg-vozaca-u-istoriji-prelazi-u-formulu-2

Bonus video is for Footbal club Red Star (Crvena Zvezda), article is about formula.

Check this page, also unrelated bonus video:
https://www.kurir.rs/vesti/specijal/3159941/on-ima-21-godinu-i-zaradjuje-neverovatnih-450-000-dinara-mesecno-ko-su-infuelnseri-u-srbiji-i-cime-se-bave-od-liste-ce-vam-se-zavrteti-u-glavi
Alex
Have you decided that users don't need this video? 😃

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivity
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue
Template #22 Issue #3
Feb 15, 2019
Accepted by admin
These videos at the bottom of some articles are NOT essential content, they can be removed and it is perfectly acceptable to generate IV in such cases
Template #22 Issue #4
Feb 15, 2019
NOTE:
This is explain continuation for this issue - I must on this way, because all is important for this specific case:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template16/issue2/

And so on... you can find many others examples.

And for this page you have been reported for issue - content in article and bonus video also not related by content (just by name of person) - video is such as joke from one international conference in Brussels.

That can't be filtered for all single articles in template.

Sorry for long reply, but article and issue like this requires long reply to be clearly all.
Alex
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-4-2-video-audio-from-unsupported-players
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue
Template #22 Issue #5
Feb 15, 2019
You can't add your own content as author.
"Kurir" not presented as author, look at original page and source code.

Look at source code - Kurir properly marked this as author, and it's their decision, we can't add something that we think better looking:
<div class="artSource">
<span itemprop="author" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/Person" class="">
Autor: 
<span itemprop="name">
Foto: Facebook
</span> </span>
</div>

This is visible at the end of content as:
Autor: Foto: Facebook
Alex
Lol, look again, it field different on each page. Somewhere author field have name author and somewhere publisher, and my template handle it fine unlike your. 😜
Declined by admin
Until someone can demonstrate that it is possible to reliably extract a more sensible author reliably here, this issue will not be accepted.

In this case, we see "Autor: Foto: Facebook" in the article text but I think here the value for "Autor" is blank. It does not mean that the article is written by "Foto: Facebook"...

By the way, in such cases where the Author attribute makes no sense at all, it is okay (and perhaps better) to omit the value entirely

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name
Template #22 Issue #6
Feb 15, 2019
In link preview "Kurir" as site_name not presented in source code.
<meta property="og:site_name" content="kurir.rs"/>

If kurir.rs make this (see above meta tag) as their official site_name, you can't change that on you own way. Or you know better than kurir.rs what is properly for them.
Alex
Loool
<span itemprop="publisher" itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization" itemscope="" hidden="">
<div itemprop="logo" itemscope="" itemtype="http://schema.org/ImageObject">
<img itemprop="url" src="//www.kurir.rs/resources/images/header/logo.png"><!-- and Google probably requires some more properties here, e.g. "height" and "width" --></div>
<span itemprop="name">Kurir</span>
</span>
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue, and:

Until someone can demonstrate that it is possible to reliably extract a more sensible author reliably here, this issue will not be accepted.

In this case, we see "Autor: Foto: Facebook" in the article text but I think here the value for "Autor" is blank. It does not mean that the article is written by "Foto: Facebook"...

By the way, in such cases where the Author attribute makes no sense at all, it is okay (and perhaps better) to omit the value entirely

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name
Template #22 Issue #7
Feb 15, 2019
NOTE:
Reply for this issue:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template22/issue6/

If you look better at code you will see that property is hidden and not visible on page.
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-1-author-name

Hidden content can't be added. Author must be visible on page.

"Author name is required only if it is consistently presented in the source article in a clear way (at the top of the page, at the very end of the text, in the meta tags etc.), especially if there's a name of an actual person."

That's hidden. And that's code is for - Organization.
<span itemprop="publisher" itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization" itemscope="" hidden="">
Alex
Duplicate

p.s. Your correctness does not depend on the amount of your messages
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue
Template #22 Issue #8
Feb 15, 2019
NOTE:
Reply for this issue:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/kurir.rs/template22/issue6/

Thats hidden content, and for organization, not for site_name. Look better at code.

<span itemprop="publisher" itemtype="http://schema.org/Organization" itemscope="" hidden="">
<span itemprop="name">Kurir</span>

Hidden, for Organization, and where you at that code see site_name property?!
Alex
Drink a sedative buddy.
Declined by admin
Duplicate Issue (please do not do this)
Template #16 Issue #5
Feb 16, 2019
Missing relateds header
Љубиша Беговић
Header for related articles in content in this case not provided by website.
That what you are marked not header for related content.
That's anchor text and <related> can't display it yet.
Header for <related> can be something like "related", "similar" etc, not anchor text.
Declined by admin