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Template #5 David Martínez Rubio	Issue #1 Jun 14, 2017	Лёня images Accepted by admin Images are missing.
Template #7 Victor Korzunin	Issue #1 Jun 14, 2017	Лёня Shouldn't use slideshow. Also, cover is duplicating in the article https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-4-galleries-and-slideshows EXCEPTION! Slideshows must not be used: When the article consists entirely of a slideshow and there's no other content. When the article uses images/videos/GIFs with captions as the main medium (e.g.: travel blogs that show many photos with captions, step-by-step crafting guides, cooking recipes, etc.). Accepted by admin
Template #8 Лёня	Issue #1 Jun 14, 2017	David Martínez Rubio This should have an IV Лёня This is optional Declined by admin This is optional for 'About' pages.
Template #8 Лёня	Issue #2 Jun 14, 2017	David Martínez Rubio This should have an IV Лёня No, it shouldn't Declined by admin Kindly resubmit with a link to a template that handles this case better.
Template #8 Лёня	Issue #3 Jun 14, 2017	David Martínez Rubio This should have an IV Лёня This is optional Declined by admin Kindly resubmit with a link to a template that handles this case better. And also this is duplicated issue: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template8/issue1/
Template #8 Лёня	Issue #4 Jun 17, 2017	Victor Korzunin Remove rudimentary navigation content Лёня No, this is essential content that will lead to another IV page. Removing this means losing important navigation on the article Declined by admin If there is some better way to show all of the article's content in one page, then pagination wouldn't be required. Otherwise, for multi-page articles pagination is essential.
Template #9 f_akmal	Issue #1 Jun 17, 2017	Victor Korzunin Remove rudimentary navigation content f_akmal Navigation links are essential, not rudimentary Declined by admin If there is some better way to show all of the article's content in one page, then pagination wouldn't be required. Otherwise, for multi-page articles pagination is essential.
Template #12 Victor Korzunin	Issue #1 Jun 17, 2017	f_akmal navigation links missing Accepted by admin If there is some better way to show all of the article's content in one page, then pagination wouldn't be required. Otherwise, for multi-page articles pagination is essential.
Template #8 Лёня	Issue #5 Jun 18, 2017	f_akmal paragraph not properly formatted Accepted by admin Formatting should be preserved.
Template #9 f_akmal	Issue #2 Jun 18, 2017	Лёня author Accepted by admin
Template #13 Azyhan	Issue #1 Feb 4, 2019	мsк мsк Related articles Declined by admin It's ok. The IV engine automatically checks whether articles in the <related> block have an IV, you don't need to worry about this. If pages have no IV, they will not be displayed. If this results in an empty block, it will not be displayed. See: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles
Template #13 Azyhan	Issue #2 Feb 4, 2019	мsк мsк AUTHOR NAME Accepted by admin
Template #14 Azyhan	Issue #1 Feb 5, 2019	Deleted Account Cover page should also include image caption Accepted by admin Media captions must be shown on IV page, aligned under their corresponding media if captions exist in the source.
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan missing captioon Deleted Account If we look into HTML source, each image didn't have <figcaption> or anything tag like that. Do we need caption for that? Is it optional? From the Docs: If the image has no caption, but has meaningful text in the alt attribute, you may use that text as the caption. This is optional, we will not accept issues about alt-text missing from captions. Accepted by admin Accepting this issue because this text is visually presented as BOTH Alt text, and also a caption: https://i.imgur.com/Fc4Njkd.jpg The perfect template here should preserve the captions, and display them as such: "Any captions present in the source article must be preserved." https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-2-4-captions If it was ONLY present as Alt text and not as a caption, then yes - it would be optional
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan wrong time displayed . Deleted Account Please look at the Docs. Suara.com is +7 from UTC. From the Docs: The IV editor‘s ’Preview‘ section will always show the date/time in UTC format, while the ’Original' section may use a different time zone. It is possible for a perfect template to display a date/time that looks different than the original. Declined by admin Not an issue, please read https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-2-date-and-time
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #3 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan same . wrong time . Deleted Account Same, please look at the Docs. Suara.com is +7 from UTC. From the Docs: The IV editor‘s ’Preview‘ section will always show the date/time in UTC format, while the ’Original' section may use a different time zone. It is possible for a perfect template to display a date/time that looks different than the original. Declined by admin Not an issue, please read https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-2-date-and-time
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #4 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan wrong date . Deleted Account No, please look at the Docs. Suara.com is +7 from UTC. From the Docs: The IV editor‘s ’Preview‘ section will always show the date/time in UTC format, while the ’Original' section may use a different time zone. It is possible for a perfect template to display a date/time that looks different than the original. Declined by admin Not an issue, please read: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-2-date-and-time
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #5 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan wrong date Deleted Account No, please look at the Docs. Suara.com is +7 from UTC. From the Docs: The IV editor‘s ’Preview‘ section will always show the date/time in UTC format, while the ’Original' section may use a different time zone. It is possible for a perfect template to display a date/time that looks different than the original. Declined by admin Not an issue, please read https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-2-date-and-time
Template #16 Deleted Account	Issue #6 Feb 5, 2019	Azyhan salah tarikhnya mas . the date is wrong . Liverpool lose their point on 5 feb not 4 . 4 is man city win against arsenal . Deleted Account Please check my response for another issue which claimed that date is wrong. Please also look at the Docs. Suara.com is +7 from UTC. From the Docs: The IV editor‘s ’Preview‘ section will always show the date/time in UTC format, while the ’Original' section may use a different time zone. It is possible for a perfect template to display a date/time that looks different than the original. Declined by admin Not an issue, please read: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-2-date-and-time
Template #17 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 5, 2019	Ivan S pagination is still in place Deleted Account Navigation links for multiple page article are essential, not rudimentary Declined by admin
Template #17 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 5, 2019	mightymatth This string appears on every single article, so it can be removed. Deleted Account Where can i get that rule from checklist page? Will be happy to remove that if obligated. Declined by admin
Template #21 mightymatth	Issue #2 Feb 10, 2019	Deleted Account Images MUST displayed in slideshow. High-res image somehow can be extracted and displayed on IV. See my template. Checklist: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-2-3-galleries-and-slideshows Accepted by admin
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 15, 2019	Vladislav This static page can generate IV. Read my comment: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template28/issue1/ Deleted Account As I said, this is job board page which lists current available job positions at that company (yes, as a text) and has the possibility to change far greater than old published articles. Indications? No published time and no modification time indicator even on HTML meta tag for that page. So we all won't know when the contents of the page changed along with the company's needs for a job position. This should not be cached because reader has possibility to read outdated available job positions which cached on Telegram server. Even if the company deletes this page, Telegram may show the cache to the reader if they have not deleted or updated the cache. See: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#2-1-pages-with-dynamic-content Tip: IV pages are cached on our servers. The more time passed since an article was published, the less frequently the cached IV page will be updated. Any pages that update content in real time would subsequently display outdated IV pages to users — which is unacceptable. Declined by admin This is not a target page. Supporting it is optional. Apart from that it has rather dynamic content which might change every few weeks which is not what IV is for.
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 16, 2019	Sergey Should be an IV page Deleted Account m.suara.com is separate web for mobile-view. Actually, I support that subdomain using different domain-level. But, it looks like it doesn't count in this contest. FYI, their main site is not responsive-site, so they build different web for mobile-view on that subdomain. That new site presented the content in different way from their main site. I think it is optional to support that kind of site although I make a rule for that site in different domain-level. Declined by admin
Template #32 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 16, 2019	Sergey Should be an IV page Accepted by admin
Template #35 Eaxon	Issue #1 Feb 16, 2019	Vladislav This page can generate IV, look my template Eaxon It can, but it obviously should not. Declined by admin This is not a target page
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #3 Feb 16, 2019	Vladislav This page can generate IV, look my template Deleted Account Indeed, but it is kind of "about" pages which is optional. Declined by admin This is not a target page.
Template #32 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 16, 2019	Vladislav This page can generate IV, look my template Declined by admin
Template #34 Sergey	Issue #1 Feb 16, 2019	Vladislav This page can generate IV, look my template Sergey According to 2.1. there shouldn't be an IV page. It purely consists of editors of this page. Don't you think that a list of editors can change from time to time? IV pages are cached on the servers, so it's not very good to see outdated information. And also pages like this are optional Declined by admin This is not a target page.
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #5 Feb 17, 2019	Sergey Precise time is missing. Look at my template, it can be obtained Deleted Account I'm sure the date is generated by @datetime from the same unixtime timestamp on this page (1549843200 or 2019-02-11T07:00:00+07:00 - both from the part that is visible to the reader and the meta tag). Can we leave that function output as it is? Declined by admin
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #6 Feb 17, 2019	Sergey It can be removed without endangering the content. Look at my template, I don't have any of these empty paragraphs and I don't miss any content. If you say that it can remove some content, then show it, please(give a link to the page, where my template cannot handle it). Also, this rudimentary content appears in other pages(so, it can appear quite often, though it can be removed). For example: https://www.suara.com/partner/content/bantenhits/2019/02/05/182542/penuh-khidmat-tokoh-lintas-agama-ikut-ramaikan-perayaan-imlek-di-tangsel https://www.suara.com/partner/content/keepo/2019/02/05/182256/4-tahun-jadi-istri-pejuang-isis-remaja-jerman-menyesal-dan-minta-pulang Declined by admin It's a minor issue - the paragraph also exists in the source. While it's nice if removed, this is optional.
Template #37 Dzmitry Perashchuk	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	Vladislav IV should be generated, look other templates Dzmitry Perashchuk This is not an article page. Photorama works on server requests Accepted by admin
Template #39 Sergey	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	Vladislav Video is should not use as cover image Sergey It's not an issue Declined by admin
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #7 Feb 18, 2019	Vladislav Video is should not use as cover image Deleted Account From checklist page: Sometimes, a cover is less desirable: - In single-image, single-video, or single-GIF articles with no significant text. I think it's okay if video used in cover since there is paragraphs and other info in this page. What I understand, "less desirable" doesn't mean it is totally prohibited. Declined by admin
Template #38 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	Vladislav Bad formatting Deleted Account <pre> - just like in the original article Declined by admin
Template #30 Deleted Account	Issue #9 Feb 18, 2019	Eaxon “Slideshows must not be used when the article consists entirely of a slideshow (and its caption/description) and there's no other content.” Deleted Account Is article or paragraph on the bottom of page doesn't count as other content? This page consists of paragraph, photo and its caption. Accepted by admin The paragraph is the description mentioned in "the article consists entirely of a slideshow (and its caption/description)"
Template #38 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 19, 2019	Deleted Account This is template and must be omitted. Not part of main article itself. Compare this: 1. https://www.suara.com/yoursay/2017/04/27/233316/menghidupkan-lukis-kaca-indonesia-dari-bangkok 2. https://www.suara.com/yoursay/2019/02/18/150000/satu-kata-dari-prabowo-saat-debat-ini-bikin-warganet-ngeri-apa-itu 3. https://www.suara.com/yoursay/2019/01/24/103813/foto-pertama-btp-di-rumah-begini-girangnya-sean-purnama 4. https://www.suara.com/yoursay/2019/02/15/170000/wow-kucing-ini-jago-banget-main-tenis-meja Accepted by admin
Template #39 Sergey	Issue #3 Feb 19, 2019	Deleted Account EXCEPTION! Slideshows must not be used: Unrelated images end up collected in the slideshow (e.g. an illustration and a disclaimer). When the article consists entirely of a slideshow (and its caption/description) and there's no other content. Sergey In the template it was mentioned as a slideshow so did I Accepted by admin
Template #47 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 19, 2019	Vladislav IV should not be generated, because this page consist from only slideshow Accepted by admin
Template #60 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Eaxon The source transformed into “Related articles”; the comment block title not removed. Accepted by admin
Template #61 mysh	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Eaxon Date is missing. Accepted by admin
Template #69 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Vladislav Rudimentary content Accepted by admin
Template #61 mysh	Issue #2 Feb 22, 2019	Vladislav This is dynamic page Accepted by admin
Template #71 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Vladislav Missing date Accepted by admin
Template #62 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Vladislav Wrong title Deleted Account Nope. Actually, the <title> content from this page combines information about PUBLISHED DATE and AUTHOR. So, I extracted it and left the actual title to be presented. This page is in the "Quotes of the Day" section. So, we must know what day the quote is intended. We can extract the date from the <title> (plus the author). Accepted by admin It's better to use the section title in this case
Template #62 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 22, 2019	Eaxon All “related articles” on this website are dynamic thus should be removed. See dates: https://telegra.ph/file/f26336b30f9c4452add7c.png Deleted Account This is RELATIVELY static. You can refresh the page multiple times to make sure the list is not CONSISTENTLY random and DYNAMIC. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles Related Articles: - ... - ... - Lists of related articles are (RELATIVELY) static (a news item may eventually get an extra link to the newest piece on the topic, but this just adds another item to an otherwise static list). Other types of “More” links that are not suitable for the “Related articles” block should be removed, provided this is technically possible without endangering essential content. Examples: - (CONSISTENTLY) random unrelated articles. - ... - ... - ... Yes, as it said: relatively, this is debatable. I also want to know Telegram admin's views on this matter. Declined by admin "We will not accept issues on whether or not links formatted as “Related articles” are thematically related enough or static enough."
Template #72 Vladislav	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Eaxon All “related articles” on this website are dynamic thus should be removed. See dates: https://telegra.ph/file/f26336b30f9c4452add7c.png Vladislav Your screenshot for mobile version. Also, I think that this is relative static articles. You can refresh the page multiple times to make sure the list is not updated. But sometimes they can updated while remaining on the relation topic Declined by admin "We will not accept issues on whether or not links formatted as “Related articles” are thematically related enough or static enough."
Template #77 Eaxon	Issue #1 Feb 24, 2019	Vladislav Missing author ("Suaradotcom") https://www.suara.com/quotesoftheday/suaradotcom/BuJXv6aDPXU Eaxon 1. The author is not specified anywhere on the original page except for the title — and it’s preserved in the title in IV — so there’s no need to duplicate it. 2. Since most (if not all) such pages contains nothing but an Instagram post, we can clearly see who the author is. 3. From docs: “It is possible to omit the name when there‘s no identifiable person, only the website’s ‘team’, ‘editors’, etc.” 4. Even if there ever will be a post from another Instagram in this section (which’s not likely), its author won’t be the author of the article/page on the website. Declined by admin That's not the name of a real person so setting it is optional in this case. If you find a site where the author's name (of a real person) is missing, create another issue.
Template #76 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 24, 2019	Vladislav IV should be generated, look other templates Deleted Account I'm intrigued. Arbiter, please give some comment about this case - really need some advice here (and there are several similar cases with other domains). I've decided not to generate IV for this page because it lacks a title. "QUOTES OF THE DAY" is name of the site section. "Instagram post" is only in the <head>, it's not visible to the user. In my opinion there is nothing "article-like" here. It's definitely a static page, but what to IV here? Declined by admin
Template #76 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 25, 2019	Eaxon The comment block title not removed. Accepted by admin
Template #77 Eaxon	Issue #2 Feb 25, 2019	Deleted Account "It's better to use the section title in this case." See: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template62/issue1/ Eaxon The section title is in the kicker property and I believe it’s acceptable in this case. I think we should use the title specified in meta tags (perhaps without the time — as in my template). Here’s why: Imagine someone sends 10 links to posts from this section (not sure if there’s anyone planning to do so though); your template will show 10 previews titled “Quotes of The Day” — and it won’t be even clear what the day; on the other hand, my template will show previews titled “Instagram post by Suaradotcom EEEE, d MMMM y” — and users will get high just from knowing what the day the linked quote of the day relates to. Accepted by admin
Template #81 Vladislav	Issue #1 Feb 25, 2019	Deleted Account "It's better to use the section title in this case." See: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template62/issue1/ Vladislav Why use a section header when there are an pagetitle and kicker? Accepted by admin
Template #82 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 25, 2019	Deleted Account Based on assessment on my rejected template (you said about "lacks of title" before), it needs IV. See: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template62/issue1/ Deleted Account Hi there, The issue you mentioned is about "if IV generated for this page - the title should be the name of the section". Please provide some information whether IV must be generated. I've decided not to generate IV for this page because it lacks a title. "QUOTES OF THE DAY" is name of the site section. "Instagram post" is only in the <head>, it's not visible to the user. In my opinion there is nothing "article-like" here. It's definitely a static page, but what to IV here? Declined by admin Since quotes of the day aren't the site's main content, it's not critical to not support such pages. So I consider this optional. That issue was about optional page formatting.
Template #82 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 27, 2019	Vladislav VI should be generated, also, see - https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/suara.com/template81/issue1/ Deleted Account I've decided not to generate IV for this page because it lacks a title. "QUOTES OF THE DAY" is name of the site section. "Instagram post" is only in the <head>, it's not visible to the user. In my opinion there is nothing "article-like" here. It's definitely a static page, but what to IV here? Declined by admin Duplicated issue
Template #82 Deleted Account	Issue #3 Feb 27, 2019	Vladislav Missing second related block "Baca juga". It contains relationed articles Declined by admin Since there's already a related block, it's better to not overload the IV by the second one.

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