Processed Issues63

This page shows a list of issues for tvrain.ru that were approved or declined by our admins.

Template #3 Issue #2
May 20, 2017
This page needs IV
Accepted by admin
Template #4 Issue #1
May 20, 2017
This page needs IV
Accepted by admin
Template #4 Issue #2
May 20, 2017
IV page is missing article date
Accepted by admin
Template #4 Issue #3
May 20, 2017
This page needs IV too
Accepted by admin
Template #6 Issue #3
May 21, 2017
Missing author name.
Accepted by admin
Template #7 Issue #1
May 22, 2017
missing target page. This one is the static page with information
Accepted by admin
Template #11 Issue #1
May 25, 2017
no author_url. The page has the link to author page
Mikhail
6.2. Author link
Author links are _optional_.

Tip: IV only supports one author URL per article. If there are several in the article, it's ok to choose one or omit them altogether. Neither will be accepted as a issue.

My template set author_url when there is only one author. For two or more it ignores them, because it's imposible and section "6. Clarifications" clearly says that it's allright.
Declined by admin
We will not be accepting issues based on the availability of author links.
Template #11 Issue #2
May 25, 2017
missing author name and url
Mikhail
It's not an author name, it's blog name. This specific blog named after its author, yes, but there is no way of knowing for sure, that's why my template ignores this field.

Example of blog, that's not named after its author:
https://tvrain.ru/blog/pisma_o_rodine/denis_lutskevich_ta_vlast_kotoruju_ja_schital_svoej_i_kotoroj_sluzhil_okazalas_negotovoj_vyslushat_narod_kotoryj_ee_izbral-399/

If I didn't do that some IV would have nonsense string like
"%time% by ПИСЬМА О РОДИНЕ" (%time% by LETTERS ABOUT HOMELAND)
Declined by admin
Yes, it is possible to omit the name in this article:
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-author-name
Template #13 Issue #1
Jun 2, 2017
Template removes twitter frames.
Accepted by admin
Template #15 Issue #1
Jun 10, 2017
This must be removed too.
Mikhail
It's my own preference to display official telegram channel. It's linked in footer on every page.


>Tip: It is allowed to display the official channel of the website that published the article at the top of the IV page (by using the channel property). To be considered official, the channel must be named as such somewhere on the source website (doesn't have to be on the same page as the original article).
https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#5-extraneous-content
Declined by admin
Template #24 Issue #1
Jun 15, 2017
There was no visible divider on original page.
Konstantin Korotchenko
This divider is present in the text as a <hr>. This divider does not change the essence. This is not a critical issue
Declined by admin
This isn't a critical issue, but it would be nice to fix it in future revisions of the template if it has to be resubmitted.
Template #24 Issue #2
Jun 15, 2017
I guess that may be not essential by checklist, but just for the sake of cosmetics — if you format lead paragraphs in a specific way all of them should be formated, not only first one (both of these are inside the same <div class="document-lead">).
Konstantin Korotchenko
Not critical issue. Does not change the essence.
Declined by admin
We may accept an issue if it can demonstrate how this approach could lead to problems.
Template #24 Issue #3
Jun 15, 2017
Subtitle is missing.
Accepted by admin
The subtitle text is missing completely. Template #27 handles the case better.
Template #27 Issue #1
Jun 16, 2017
merged text. Try my template, everything is fine there
Accepted by admin
Template #30 Issue #1
Jun 17, 2017
Two authors, but only one is shown.
Accepted by admin
Template #31 handles this case better.
Template #37 Issue #1
Jun 18, 2017
Empty paragraph should be removed
Konstantin Korotchenko
not a critical - this is in text.
Declined by admin
This is not the critical issue.
Template #37 Issue #2
Jun 18, 2017
External link in subtitle looks bad
Konstantin Korotchenko
Really? Man this is in text, and this is not subtitle, this is lead-text. Look better
Declined by admin
Template #37 Issue #3
Jun 18, 2017
Slideshow in IV is required, since original have IV

>Slideshows are required only if the source article shows several photos or other media as a slideshow or gallery.

And this page doesn't meet any of these:
>EXCEPTION! Slideshows must not be used:
>When the article consists entirely of a slideshow and there's no other content.
>When the article uses images/videos/GIFs with captions as the main medium (e.g.: travel blogs that show many photos with captions, step-by-step crafting guides, cooking recipes, etc.).

https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-4-galleries-and-slideshows
Konstantin Korotchenko
I don't think so. If u check original page - this is not a slideshow, this is image in article. Images that go under each other, they can not be flipped either to the right or to the left. "When the article consists entirely of a slideshow and there's no other content." - not a slideshow in original. "When the article uses images/videos/GIFs with captions as the main medium (e.g.: travel blogs that show many photos with captions, step-by-step crafting guides, cooking recipes, etc.)." I don't see images with captions in original. I only can see 1 figcaption to 1 image, not for all 4. So I don't know why u Issue that. Catch my Issue.
Declined by admin
There are several images following each other in the original article. So, a slideshow is optional: https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-4-galleries-and-slideshows
Template #37 Issue #4
Jun 18, 2017
Missing subtitle.
Konstantin Korotchenko
yep. missing.
Accepted by admin
Template #42 Issue #1
Jun 18, 2017
This is not a slideshow. Don't have figcaption for al images in original. Not a slideshow in original IV. Can't use left-ride on original page. Only photo step-by-step and 1 figcaption for last photo.
Mikhail
I'm sorry, but how that is not a slideshow?
http://imgur.com/a/5oMTF

It's wraped in same div (class="fotorama"), that all other slideshows wraped in on this site, it contains div's for navigation arrows...

And....It works as slideshow! Open in your browser and try — you click one half of image, and it changes with next picture, you click other half — with previous.

Of course it wouldn't be displayed here as a slideshow — same as all other slideshows, because JavaScript is disabled for original tab.

Caption is allright, It's displayed as slideshow caption, and not inside individual photos (same as in source).
Declined by admin
Template #42 Issue #2
Jun 18, 2017
Full only for pay-content.
Mikhail
So what? There is nothing about that in checklist. I clearly say to reader that he could open browser and read full article, if he's paid subscriber.

Also your template does exactly the same:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/tvrain.ru/template37/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftvrain.ru%2Farticles%2Fivanov_putin-423426%2F

And even worse (for some pages you doesn't even notify reader that he's viewing only part of the article):
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/tvrain.ru/template37/issue5/
Declined by admin
Template #42 Issue #3
Jun 18, 2017
Not a link.
Mikhail
It's a personal blog post, authors is free to format them however they want. There is no way to suppor everything, except checking every blog (notice: this site is about news, not people blogs).
Even if I did checked all posts someone else would come with his new blog...

Also worth noting: 1) It's the only one blog post by this author. He didn't posted anything else. And I didn't see anyone else using image as a link in their blogs. 2) Your template doesn't supports that as well
Accepted by admin
This image has no sense without a link.

Since no template could parse this website perfectly, this domain will have no winners in the first contest.
Mikhail
Please take into account that these personal blogs are: (1) almost dead and have very-very tiny percent of all content generated by site and (2) that posts may have very unexpected formating since content here isn't checked by editors, and it's really hard to foresee/support everything that authors may generate without such suppervision.

1) This year no one posted anything in this (/blogs/) section of site and in 2016 it was only 6 posts. 32 posts in total over last 4 years (actually even less, since google also lists blogs main pages): www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Atvrain.ru%2Fblog&&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:6/1/2013,cd_max:7/1/2017
On some days they posts as much as twice that amount of regular news. And my templates handles them fine.

2) These blogs are not moderated/checked by anyone, authors is free to format them however they want. Basically they post here in their free time, if they really want to. And they don't follow any rules doing it. Good example here, look at first photo: https://tvrain.ru/blog/blog_se
Accepted by admin
Sorry, the points you mention do not justify leaving an image that has a link, without link. That may be very common, you need to handle those cases well. If you support a page, it must be supported perfectly, there is no room for excuses of which you mention. Either IV is not generated, or generated but well made.

The issue is still valid.
Template #37 Issue #7
Jun 19, 2017
!It is an additional info/respond to Konstantin answer on issue: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/tvrain.ru/template37/issue3/

I've tested that — seems like you're not using chrome-based browser. (I've tested in Vivaldi (+), Chrome (+), Edge (-), Firefox (-))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmJyBdvGIOk

You could see that it renders as intended (and it is slideshow — look at <div class="fotorama"> in source; that's how slideshow are done on this site, for exapmple: https://tvrain.ru/articles/auschwitz-402905/ )
Konstantin Korotchenko
So this is optional. If 1 case it's only img and other slideshow.
Declined by admin
We agree with 'optional'.
Template #37 Issue #8
Jun 19, 2017
Missing subtitle, my template handles that.

It different from: https://tvrain.ru/articles/roskosmos-430423
as it uses yet another way of formating subtitles
Accepted by admin
Template #43 Issue #1
Feb 5, 2019
need to remove rudimentary content on the bottom
Accepted by admin
Template #43 Issue #2
Feb 5, 2019
image should be in article text
Declined by admin
Template #43 Issue #3
Feb 5, 2019
garbage on the bottom
Accepted by admin
Template #64 Issue #1
Feb 9, 2019
image is skipped. should be image then related link as in my template. it is the most close to original page view
Nikita
This image is part of the <related> block (see horizontal dividers+code structure). It does not make sense if the related link is not available. And the link *is* available, it is still up to Telegram to generate some sort of preview. Images not supported in related blocks and should be removed.
Declined by admin
For <related> in actual mobile IV, it is similar to a link preview, where it can show title, desc, and image preview of the article link.

So only the link is needed for <related>. IV 2.0 will get the title / desc / image preview itself.
Template #64 Issue #2
Feb 9, 2019
<related>
Nikita
No way to reliably tell that this is a rel link and not a normal quote, structurally, that's just a <blockquote>
Declined by admin
Yes, it doesn't seem reliably/safely identifiable, in which case it is okay to not handle it as <related>.
Template #64 Issue #3
Feb 11, 2019
no instant view for blogs
Nikita
Dynamic content: a list of artivles
Declined by admin
Template #64 Issue #4
Feb 11, 2019
empty paragraphs at the end of article
Nikita
...are straight from source
Declined by admin
Yes, the source does include these.
Template #64 Issue #5
Feb 11, 2019
no instant view
Nikita
This article is placed in /teleshow segment of the site, which is currently used only for video content (unsupported). Link you provided is very old (news item from 2013), which, as far as I can see, is not accessible from current home page.
Declined by admin
Template #64 Issue #6
Feb 11, 2019
no instant view
Nikita
Dupe https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/tvrain.ru/template64/issue5/
Declined by admin
Duplicate
Template #71 Issue #1
Feb 11, 2019
no instant view
Declined by admin
Dynamic page
Template #71 Issue #2
Feb 11, 2019
page has more info
Accepted by admin
Template #64 Issue #7
Feb 11, 2019
this article is accessible from the main website ("Архив"). So somebody finds this news article, send me the link and I will not see Instant View?
Nikita
I guess, if someone shares with you a 6 yo news item in Telegram :)
Declined by admin
Template #64 Issue #8
Feb 11, 2019
instant view and gallery (yes, it is possible to generate gallery, look at my template)
Nikita
Ok, you win xd
Accepted by admin
Template #71 Issue #3
Feb 11, 2019
no instant view and gallery (gallery is possible, look at my template)
Accepted by admin
Template #76 Issue #1
Feb 15, 2019
should have bold font as in article
undefined
It's a lead paragraph. I made it subheader, and that's enough.
Declined by admin
Template #76 Issue #2
Feb 15, 2019
should have figcaption, and set of images should be in slideshow
undefined
Nice finding! Thanks
Accepted by admin
Template #80 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
This is not a kicker. This is a shared tag, it follows to remove it.
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Since there's no actual kicker in the title of the page, I preferred to use that element to provide additional contextual info for a viewer. It's critical I believe.
Wasn't an issue so far, for any other domain.
Accepted by admin
Template #80 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Note for Sardar Atabekov and admins regarding this issue:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/tvrain.ru/template80/issue1/

I meant "It's NOT critical" :) sorry
Declined by admin
Template #80 Issue #3
Feb 16, 2019
missed the author's name
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First of all, the highlighted element is a regular paragraph with no markup to identify it as an author.

And in general, it's a post in a personal blog (which I've put in the kicker, btw). For all posts in John blog John will be the author.

So, reader's gonna know what he's reading and where it belongs.
Declined by admin
Template #81 Issue #1
Feb 16, 2019
set of images should be wrapped to gallery, use figcaptions for images
Accepted by admin
Template #81 Issue #2
Feb 16, 2019
Последние посты should be removed, and Блог Родиона Чепеля is category name, not author name
Accepted by admin
Template #80 Issue #4
Feb 17, 2019
should be slideshow here and need to remove thumbs
Accepted by admin
Template #82 Issue #1
Feb 19, 2019
wrong site name and missing picture in link preview
Accepted by admin
Template #81 Issue #3
Feb 19, 2019
caption not handled
Declined by admin
Duplicate
Template #81 Issue #4
Feb 19, 2019
this is related article
Accepted by admin
Template #81 Issue #5
Feb 19, 2019
Declined by admin
Template #82 Issue #2
Feb 19, 2019
captions are missing
Accepted by admin
Template #81 Issue #6
Feb 19, 2019
captions are missing
Declined by admin
Duplicate
Template #83 Issue #1
Feb 20, 2019
no image in Link Preview
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For this page meta[@property="og:image"] element is used for the image_url. And for this particular article image is not available (404).
Accepted by admin
Template #84 Issue #1
Feb 23, 2019
There should be a different picture in link preview. The website specifies special pictures for that.
Declined by admin
Template #84 Issue #2
Feb 23, 2019
This is paid article, IV should not be generated.
Accepted by admin
Template #85 Issue #1
Feb 23, 2019
gallery is missed
Accepted by admin
Template #86 Issue #1
Feb 25, 2019
missing video
Accepted by admin
Template #88 Issue #1
Mar 1, 2019
slideshow should not be used here
Vladimir
why? it looks like slideshow on source website
Declined by admin
Template #88 Issue #2
Mar 1, 2019
slideshow should not be used here
Declined by admin
Declined by admin
Accepted by admin
Template #89 Issue #1
Mar 1, 2019
Declined by admin
Template #91 Issue #1
Mar 29, 2020
Не 65%, а 65 лет
Declined by admin
Template #91 Issue #2
Oct 31, 2020
font is not applied
Declined by admin
Template #91 Issue #3
Nov 7, 2020
По совам очевидцев, блогера избили полицейские, он находился без сознания. Позже его увезли в больницу, а затем вернули в отдел полиции №4.
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