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Template #4 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 5, 2019	Денис No <related> content "Похожие посты:". In the original it is available. Andrew A. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles "Blocks of ‘Read also’, ‘Read more’, ‘More on this topic’ links are optional." Declined by admin
Template #4 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Feb 5, 2019	Anton Photo cover image missing Andrew A. What? How could it be missing if it's on its place? Declined by admin
Template #4 Andrew A.	Issue #3 Feb 6, 2019	Saturn it's an ad. Accepted by admin
Template #6 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 6, 2019	Art Mas Social media links and buttons removed, including “Share” and “Like” links and buttons https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#4-content-to-be-removed Accepted by admin
Template #8 Art Mas	Issue #1 Feb 8, 2019	Nikita Davidenko Related articles? Accepted by admin Art Mas Administration, and how about https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-3-2-related-articles - "Note 1:..the author of an issue must demonstrate a template that reliably identifies them for extraction/removal without endangering essential information.". The author of the issue has no template, and the rules said "author of an issue must demonstrate a template that reliably identifies them for extraction/removal without endangering essential information." Accepted by admin You can see Template #13. Anyways by the HTML seems possible to get them.
Template #10 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 9, 2019	Deleted Account Social link image used as the cover image. Accepted by admin
Template #13 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 12, 2019	Andrew Ads Accepted by admin
Template #14 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 12, 2019	Andrew Ads + no author was set (it's possible, check my template) Andrew A. Author is given in free form, it's not possible to reliably identify it. Declined by admin
Template #16 Art Mas	Issue #1 Feb 12, 2019	Andrew IV must be generated Accepted by admin
Template #22 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 14, 2019	Deleted Account <related> not formatted One of related links is handled but not the other. Andrew A. One-off case. Usually on this site, in "Read also" blocks, there is a list of elements after "Читайте также" paragraph (http://vesma.today/news/post/5585-nesu-purgu, http://vesma.today/news/post/5867-stal-memom, http://vesma.today/article/post/268-voda-v-rechakh-chinovnikov-). If there is one element, there can be no list (http://vesma.today/news/post/5690-mne-nravitsya-shanson-gubernator-sergey-nosov-rasskazal-kakuyu-muzyku-slushaet-). In this case, the layout is messed up — there is more than one element but there is no list. I believe, just taking all the following links after "Читайте также" paragraph isn't safe. Declined by admin
Template #24 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 14, 2019	Andrew Author is missing. Deleted Account <h3 style="text-align: right;">Вера Микс</h3> Declined by admin
Template #22 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Feb 14, 2019	Andrew Author is missing. Andrew A. It can't be reliably identified. It's just the last paragraph aligned to the right. Not just the author name can be there. For example: http://vesma.today/article/post/255-i-ne-pogasne-rampy-svet — "Photo by author". This site has "news__authors1" block for author name in standard format (seen on http://vesma.today/article/post/255-i-ne-pogasne-rampy-svet). Declined by admin
Template #22 Andrew A.	Issue #3 Feb 14, 2019	Andrew No author again. And in response to https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template22/issue2/: Of course ~100% identifying the author on this site might be a little bit tricky, but still possible. Check my template. Declined by admin
Template #24 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 14, 2019	Andrew No author again. Trust me, it's possible to identify the author on pages like this. Check my template. Deleted Account And then the structure of hand-formatted text changes and your heuristic fails: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template25/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvesma.today%2Farticle%2Fpost%2F247-mnenie-o-formalnykh-vyborakh-s-ocherednoy-zamanukhoy- Or grabs the author name together with rudimentary text: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template25/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvesma.today%2Farticle%2Fpost%2F267-istoriya-ne-terpit-suety-magadanskomu-teatru-ispolnilos-80-let- Of course, now when I found these failing cases for you, you can fix them too, basically by special-casing them. But only until next time. Extracting values from hand-formatted text on a website that's going to be updated just is not practical. Declined by admin Not safely/reliably identifiable. It's fine to leave them like this.
Template #22 Andrew A.	Issue #4 Feb 14, 2019	Andrew "Читайте также" is missing Declined by admin
Template #23 Art Mas	Issue #5 Feb 16, 2019	Andrew A. On site, there is a slideshow between the selected paragraphs. Accepted by admin
Template #24 Deleted Account	Issue #4 Feb 16, 2019	Andrew No slideshow Accepted by admin
Template #31 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 16, 2019	Andrew Banner is missing Andrew A. (Note that it is an image, not a real form.) This page is a promotional page with a non-standard layout. I decided to support this type of pages (although it's not very article-like) insofar as it is reasonable to do it. But there can be ambiguous cases like this one. In this case, I would say, the banner is just a decoration element in addition to the existent link. So, if you will, it may be removed as per Checklist "Buttons removed (if the button is essential, it must be simplified into a link)" (https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#4-content-to-be-removed). And that not to mention "Banners removed" item of the said Checklist. Declined by admin Since this is an edge case website & the banner is clearly some part of an ad/promotion, it's okay to remove it.
Template #24 Deleted Account	Issue #5 Feb 16, 2019	Andrew A. On site, there is a slideshow between the selected paragraphs. Declined by admin Duplicate
Template #31 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Feb 17, 2019	Andrew The slideshow must be between these two paragraphs. The decision to move a slideshow to the bottom is risky and it may break article logic. Accepted by admin
Template #31 Andrew A.	Issue #3 Feb 17, 2019	Andrew Author can be identified + this image is more a cover. Declined by admin
Template #31 Andrew A.	Issue #4 Feb 17, 2019	Andrew This whole block is a blockquote (what <blockquote> tag on the original page also says). Declined by admin
Template #34 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 19, 2019	Andrew IV must be generated Accepted by admin
Template #36 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Andrew Figcaption & cover are missing. Andrew A. Cover is optional here. And as for figcaption — that is some reeealy strange piece of layout there. <em><span contenteditable="false" draggable="false"><img src="http://vesma.today/uploads/common/2018/09/27/vypuskausij_kollektor_g._magadanka.jpg" data-file="[object Object]" class="fr-fic fr-dii"><span contenteditable="true">Выпускающий коллектор</span></span></em> There is no way I could figure out this is a caption. This site normally uses fr-img-caption//fr-inner for figcaptions, and my template supports it well, as you can see. Declined by admin
Template #36 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Feb 22, 2019	Andrew Some captions are not present in the IV. Accepted by admin
Template #37 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 22, 2019	Andrew Image is missing Accepted by admin
Template #40 Andrew	Issue #1 Feb 25, 2019	Andrew A. A paragraph above the photo became a caption under it. Andrew Easy explanation: because this image and this text have the same parent. Content issue. P. S. Do you report issues in the last seconds on purpose? Accepted by admin Andrew Just want to add, both our templates have the issue with slideshows on this site like this one: http://vesma.today/news/post/4722-rzhd-pokazal-dizayn-novykh-platskartnykh-vagonov- Accepted by admin
Template #41 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 25, 2019	admin Many photos are missing Accepted by admin
Template #47 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 25, 2019	Andrew Telegram link must be removed, it's not a unique case: 1) http://vesma.today/news/post/6217-pravitelstvo-khabarovskogo-kraya-pereschitaet-doplaty-k-pensiyam 2) http://vesma.today/news/post/6201-fsb-v-khabarovske-predotvratila-massovoe-ubiystvo-v-shkole Andrew A. This site has COUNTLESS number of formats for displaying telegram/facebook/whatsapp links. NONE of them have any classes/means to identify them reliably. They are all given in plain tags in the end of the article. "Not a unique case" — 3 results in Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Avesma.today+"Telegram-канал+Новости+Хабаровска" All are dated today/yesterday. Your example just proves that new formats appear in real time. I remove a couple of popular formats. But hunting for all of them is futile. You can't predict new formats, you can't cover all existing ones. Declined by admin
Template #47 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Feb 26, 2019	Andrew Wrapped into blockquote on the site (of course I know there is an image inside it, but this is not an excuse). Declined by admin
Template #49 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Feb 28, 2019	Andrew It seems like they used <h4> for lead paragraphs in a lot of articles in 2017. Because they still use <h3> for regular text, I think all <h4> could be safely transformed into <p>. Andrew A. "I think all <h4> could be safely transformed into <p>" Why? As you said, in this case from 2017, they use <h4> for lead text. Note that in the original, this text is in uppercase & has more letter-spacing. So, it has a specific emphasized style for a lead. I think we could convert it to bold or leave it as <h4>. I don't see any big problem here. An example of an issue with much worse problems got declined: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/ast-news.ru/template26/issue3/. As Denis said there, "IV isn't for fixing/beautifying orginal markup on legacy pages. Not to say it's not possible to "fix" this anyway, it's way too giberish formating. User would get about the same experience if he visits original." Declined by admin
Template #49 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Mar 1, 2019	Andrew This page can be supported Accepted by admin
Template #56 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 3, 2019	Andrew Unavailable embed (can't select it) Declined by admin
Template #58 Andrew	Issue #1 Mar 6, 2019	is summer missing iv Accepted by admin Andrew I have no words. Now we have iframe in h2... It's impossible to find all unsupported pairs .. Accepted by admin
Template #59 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 6, 2019	Evgeniy Solovev Hi there! Author name should be into the author block at template's header. Andrew A. It can't be reliably identified. I already pointed what happen when you try to take author from plain tags: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template40/issue2/. There is no rigid structure, the site has countless ways to specify the author, for instance: http://vesma.today/news/post/993-volontery-quotzoospasaquot-v-magadane-nashli-dom-psu-kotorogo-hozyaeva-ostavili-umirat http://vesma.today/article/post/184-susumanskiy-tigr-rodom-iz-bereleha http://vesma.today/news/post/239-chem-otlichilas-magadanskaya-oblast-v-iyulye---otvechayut-eksperty-fonda-peterburgskaya-politika http://vesma.today/news/post/1399-kak-bankrotyat-kolymskiy-affinajnyy-zavod http://vesma.today/article/post/192-kurort-marchekan Declined by admin
Template #59 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Mar 6, 2019	Evgeniy Solovev Hi there! Should be used author name. Andrew A. It can't be reliably identified. I already pointed what happen when you try to take author from plain tags: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template40/issue2/. There is no rigid structure, the site has countless ways to specify the author, for instance: http://vesma.today/news/post/993-volontery-quotzoospasaquot-v-magadane-nashli-dom-psu-kotorogo-hozyaeva-ostavili-umirat http://vesma.today/article/post/184-susumanskiy-tigr-rodom-iz-bereleha http://vesma.today/news/post/239-chem-otlichilas-magadanskaya-oblast-v-iyulye---otvechayut-eksperty-fonda-peterburgskaya-politika http://vesma.today/news/post/1399-kak-bankrotyat-kolymskiy-affinajnyy-zavod http://vesma.today/article/post/192-kurort-marchekan Declined by admin
Template #59 Andrew A.	Issue #3 Mar 6, 2019	Andrew Some rudimentary content Andrew A. <em>Б</em><em>удьте</em> One-off case, can't hunt for such cases. Usually these blocks look like this: http://vesma.today/news/post/4523-v-ministerstvo-prirodnykh-resursov-kolymy-naznachen-novyy-ministr (<em>Будьте в курсе новостей! ...</em>). Accepted by admin
Template #62 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 9, 2019	Andrew IV must be generated Accepted by admin
Template #65 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 10, 2019	Andrew Should be removed Another page featuring this: http://vesma.today/news/post/5598-edinaya-rossiya-otklonila Andrew A. Not identifiable in any way. Just <h2> tags. 13 results in Google (all between 15 Jan 2019 and 19 Jan 2019): https://www.google.com/search?q=%22%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BC%D0%B0.+%D0%90%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5+%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8+%D0%B2+%D0%AF%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81+%D0%94%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BD%22+site%3Avesma.today. This site has thousands of pages. Look, we (both you and me) have cleaned up 99% of different kinds of blocks inviting to join to social networks. Hunting for 100% is futile, and will never be achieved. New articles will appear with new formats, etc. You can identify these links only by text & hrefs, and those are super-fluid (volatile). Declined by admin Not identifiable
Template #65 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Mar 11, 2019	Andrew Exactly the same banner as here (https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template65/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvesma.today%2Fnews%2Fpost%2F1301-detskiy-lager) Also it is present on https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template65/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvesma.today%2Fnews%2Fpost%2F1377-quotteper-ya-smotryashchiy-po-vyboramquot-magadanskiy-bloger-rasskazal-kak-budut-povyshat-yavku+ Andrew A. This banner has no fixed URL: • On http://vesma.today/news/post/1301-detskiy-lager, it is /uploads/common/2018/03/05/%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%202.jpg • On this page, it is /uploads/common/2018/03/08/%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%202.jpg (note the date) • On the page by your second link, it is /uploads/common/2018/03/16/%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%202(3).jpg. It is uploaded for every post. We also can't detect this banner by link URL, since you previously correctly pointed to a page where this link is a part of content: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template37/issue1/. Please find yourself a better occupation than scanning every page of this website for one-off "issues" in my template. You are wasting both my and your time. Declined by admin
Template #65 Andrew A.	Issue #3 Mar 12, 2019	Andrew This isn't a pull quote. Just a regular quote Andrew A. This is exactly a pull quote. It is repeated below in the article text. Declined by admin
Template #65 Andrew A.	Issue #4 Mar 12, 2019	Andrew Looks like they had been using "events" section until september 2018, which doesn't mean it's dead forever because it's still present in the main menu. Since catalogs aren't IV targets, the whole section should be omitted. Accepted by admin
Template #66 Andrew	Issue #1 Mar 13, 2019	Andrew A. That's a caption for a different photo. Andrew Well.. the layout here is completely broken: https://pastebin.com/2gqTdmed Of course you can write 100500 exceptions for unique broken cases. And if you look closely at this structure you would see why my page is actually broken: "Дикая барахолка..." and what is supposed to be the "next" image just have the same parent. Plus, this is a 2016 article. And finally, this error is not so critical that leads to swapping some random unrelated blocks. Accepted by admin Since it's not possible to properly identify captions, it's acceptable to leave them as text. Displaying the wrong caption is unacceptable for IV. Andrew It would probably be better to omit all captions on this site at all then. I know that you don't accept issues for other templates in appeals, but anyway, I've just found an example where reporter's template also fails to handle: https://vk.cc/8J49yE (and here, but for the other reason: https://vk.cc/8zBhgB). Also, according to your new rules, related articles should not be present on pages like this: https://vk.cc/9cFlIs. Accepted by admin
Template #66 Andrew	Issue #2 Mar 13, 2019	Andrew A. In addition to issue #1: here, you take caption from above the image too (although here it is at least related, but only by a lucky chance). Andrew Yes, but like I said here - https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template66/issue1/ - the caption and the image have the parent in common. This rule helps in handling so many such cases. Declined by admin Indeed it's not a caption, but a header. Declined since it's additional issue.
Template #66 Andrew	Issue #3 Mar 13, 2019	Andrew A. Cover separated from its caption. It's too dangerous to set a cover on this site with its unstable layout. Andrew You think this is a caption - but it's actually a paragraph. This one is an unique case. Plus, this captions still works. And the article from 2016. Declined by admin
Template #67 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 29, 2019	admin Content is missing Accepted by admin Andrew A. Oh man, why have I resubmitted my template. It's a serious problem in the source. This site has the following basic structure for image captions: <span class="fr-img-caption"> <span class="fr-img-wrap"> <img> <span class="fr-inner"> CAPTION </span> </span> </span> On this page, all text after the image got into the class="fr-inner" element. You can see the consequences of this even on the site itself—all content after the image is half-transparent. That's not something that could happen on regular basis on this site. That's a plain and serious error. And IV cuts foreign elements in <figcaption> without asking, that's why it's absent with my template. Accepted by admin
Template #74 Andrew	Issue #1 Mar 29, 2019	admin Social links must be removed Accepted by admin
Template #77 Andrew A.	Issue #1 Mar 30, 2019	Abdulrahman Rabie Should be Blockquote as webiste Declined by admin
Template #77 Andrew A.	Issue #2 Apr 1, 2019	Andrew Missing link Accepted by admin
Template #79 Andrew	Issue #1 Apr 4, 2019	Andrew A. Should be a caption. It's the standard format for captions on this site (class="fr-inner" inside of class="fr-img-caption"), only articles for the last days: http://vesma.today/news/post/6951-v-magadane-ne-znayut http://vesma.today/news/post/6910-4-tysyachi-khabarovskikh-veteranov-poluchat-vyplaty-k-9-maya http://vesma.today/news/post/6898-edinoross-napisal-zayavlenie-v-politsiyu-na-nezavisimogo-zhurnalista-iz-khabarovska- Things like one (or even a couple—this site's editors are really cack-handed) page with a broken layout (https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vesma.today/template67/issue1/; and of course I shouldn't have resubmitted my template and submit an appeal instead) don't make a valid exception to claim that it can't be reliably identified. Andrew I don't know. Let's wait for admin's decision on this. I don't want to be a victim of another page with a broken layout. Accepted by admin Since recent articles are using this markup, captions must be formatted properly

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