Processed Issues55

This page shows a list of issues for eldestapeweb.com that were approved or declined by our admins.

Template #3 Issue #1
Apr 18, 2019
Image cover missing
Accepted by admin
Template #3 Issue #2
Apr 18, 2019
....
Accepted by admin
Template #6 Issue #1
Apr 18, 2019
related link missing
Eleeciones 2019: Rossi calificó como "triste último mensaje" de Macri en el Congreso
Accepted by admin
Template #3 Issue #4
Apr 18, 2019
Initial article doesn't have this "Embed" text, so it must be removed. You can identify it by ".embed_options".
Accepted by admin
Template #8 Issue #1
Apr 19, 2019
Broken slideshow
Deleted Account
Reporter's template doesn't support this slideshow.
Accepted by admin
Template #8 Issue #2
Apr 19, 2019
Should be formatted as blockquote (or pullquote)
Deleted Account
Yeah, it should be formatted differently.
Accepted by admin
Template #8 Issue #3
Apr 19, 2019
Missing embed between selected paragraphs. See:
https://telegra.ph/file/25a6905f335031cfedfb3.png
Deleted Account
One-off case with a rare embed.
Accepted by admin
Template #8 Issue #4
Apr 19, 2019
<div class="embed_epigrafe"> and <div class="embed_copyright"> should be converted to figcaption
Deleted Account
Yeah, you are right, thank you.
Accepted by admin
Template #9 Issue #1
Apr 22, 2019
Missing video.

In the original there is a video in the gallery/slideshow. See my template.
Accepted by admin
Template #13 Issue #1
Apr 22, 2019
This page must not be generated for IV .Because there is unsupported embed in original page :Infogram
See:https://imgur.com/a/IdaMUrX.
Accepted by admin
Template #14 Issue #1
Apr 22, 2019
This page must not be generated for IV .Because there is unsupported embed in original page :Infogram
See:https://imgur.com/a/IdaMUrX.
Accepted by admin
Template #16 Issue #1
Apr 22, 2019
This page must not be generated for IV .Because there is unsupported embed in original page :Infogram
See:https://imgur.com/a/IdaMUrX.
Deleted Account
One-off case with a rare embed.
Accepted by admin
Template #27 Issue #1
Apr 23, 2019
iv text body must be separated
Giovanni M.
Not an issue
Accepted by admin
Template #17 Issue #1
Apr 25, 2019
The video in this page can be supported.
It's not an external player but simply an embedded PHP page belonging to the same domain.
Accepted by admin
Deleted Account
Why did you accept this issue? If I didn't leave any comment, it doesn't mean that I agree with reporter's issue. This media element has iframe version which works in properly on the initial page and also here: https://codepen.io/anon/pen/XwrGpZ.
Checklist, p. 6.4.2 "Video/Audio from unsupported players" clearly says, that if video has an iframe version, it's advisable to use it, see:
"If the unsupported widget has an iFrame version, make it into an <iframe>. If you do that, the IV page will not be generated due to unsupported content, but things will work out of the box if and when we support that widget." - that's what I did.
Same issues declined:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/europafm.ro/template7/issue1/,
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/europafm.ro/template7/issue2/,
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/zf.ro/template38/issue4/

If you are going to accept this issue again, please, leave a meaningful comment.
Declined by admin
Template #17 Issue #2
Apr 25, 2019
Deleted Account
Ancient lore.
Declined by admin
Template #17 Issue #3
Apr 25, 2019
Divs must be converted to paragraphs
Deleted Account
?
Checklist has no admonitions about it.
Accepted by admin
Deleted Account
Could you at least leave any comment? Checklist has nothing about it, you just silently accept this issue. Don't you think it's quite strange? Could you please give any arguments why <p> must be converted to <div> or should I be able to read your mind?
Accepted by admin
Accept our apologies.

It's a common practice on the contest. In Telegram clients it's not possible to select certain words in IV, only paragraphs. So if user wants to copy text, he is able to copy only the whole paragraph. That's why they must be preserved. In this case it would be possible to copy only the whole article.
Template #28 Issue #1
Apr 25, 2019
Divs must be converted to paragraphs
Giovanni M.
I've noticed that admis have begun to accept this kind of issue on other domains, but I'm not totally convinced that it's a good idea.

In my opinion this can create more serious problems than those it solves because of the rules including DIVs in "+ .. after".
1) embeds (fb-post, etc.) may stop working
2) unsupported contents (reddit-card, etc.) may not be recognized
Accepted by admin
Template #17 Issue #4
Apr 25, 2019
Infographic embeds must be unsupported
Deleted Account
Not identifiable enough. Every embed on this domain has "embed_cont" class. Furthermore, article is pretty old.
Declined by admin
Template #29 Issue #1
Apr 26, 2019
The video on this page can be supported using the inline function.

It is not an external widget but an embedded PHP page of the same domain. In this case I believe that it's up to the template creators to support it.
Accepted by admin
Deleted Account
1. It's a duplication of https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template17/issue1/.

2. Why did you accept this issue? If I didn't leave any comment, it doesn't mean that I agree with reporter's issue. This media element has iframe version which works in properly on the initial page.
Checklist, p. 6.4.2 "Video/Audio from unsupported players" clearly says, that if video has an iframe version, it's advisable to use it, see:
"If the unsupported widget has an iFrame version, make it into an <iframe>. If you do that, the IV page will not be generated due to unsupported content, but things will work out of the box if and when we support that widget." - that's what I did.
Same issues declined:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/europafm.ro/template7/issue1/,
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/europafm.ro/template7/issue2/,
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/zf.ro/template38/issue4/

If you are going to accept this issue again, please leave a meaningful comment.
Accepted by admin
Although you are right in this case, we can't accept your appeal, since your most recent template (and others in between) got rejected because of other issues. Please take our apologies. The contest was draining for everyone, thank you for participating!
Template #29 Issue #2
Apr 28, 2019
On original page it's slideshow with two images. Open in browser,
Deleted Account
It's an embedded slideshow from flickr.
In this case is not possible to present all images as a slideshow, but according to checklist 6.2.3 we can keep a link to the full gallery and generate an IV anyway.

The image link leads you to the flickr gallery.
Declined by admin
Template #29 Issue #3
Apr 28, 2019
Deleted Account
> Divs must be converted to paragraphs
No. Checklist has no directions about converting divs to paragraphs. Furthermore, it's an old page. All the modern pages have proper mark up and everything works cool.
Accepted by admin
Deleted Account
This issue is a duplication of https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template17/issue3/, (and both from 2016), why did you accept it?
Furthermore it's not simple <div>'s in ".note-body", these are nested divs in div.

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imho:
You require from contestants to convert <div>s to <p>s, while IV doesn't support any non-text content in <p>, which often lead to a "Nested" error (which usually shows up only after IV uses @simplify on $body). That's just stupid.
Accepted by admin
Sorry for the inconveniences, we should have left a proper comment! As already clarified in the other issue, this is because telegram clients offer a functionality to copy paragraphs only.
Template #29 Issue #4
Apr 28, 2019
Photo displayed instead of video
Deleted Account
Again, article from 2016 with an unsupported embed. Show me this problem on any working modern page.
Accepted by admin
2016 is not yet ancient lore
Deleted Account
If you check the initial page, you will see "404 Not Found" (https://ibb.co/bLYdw9M), which clearly means that even domains holders doesn't support this page. Why should I support old pages which anyway are unsupported by the holders of this domain?
Accepted by admin
You are right, but sadly your following templates got other valid issues which is why we can't return your template to the contest. Please take our apologies. Stay subscribed to pewds!
Template #29 Issue #5
Apr 28, 2019
HTML tags into the caption
My template handles this case better.
Deleted Account
Not critical.
Accepted by admin
Template #31 Issue #3
Apr 28, 2019
Giovanni M.
This is a rare case, but I'm going to fix it anyway
Accepted by admin
Template #31 Issue #4
Apr 28, 2019
Page with static article like content. Must be supported.
Giovanni M.
HTML is broken in this page

Inspect the second twitter widget:
https://telegra.ph/file/c774334d2e9154c3eb2ec.png
Declined by admin
Template #34 Issue #1
Apr 29, 2019
unsupported chart
Deleted Account
What? Initial page has no chart. Only link to it, which is present.
See: https://ibb.co/fNsVr80
Declined by admin
Agreed with the author — there are links in the original source.
Template #37 Issue #2
Apr 29, 2019
Links above and below the embed should be removed
Giovanni M.
They are also on the original.
Anyway It's not critical
Declined by admin
Template #34 Issue #2
May 1, 2019
Slideshows must not be used when the article consists entirely of a slideshow (and its caption/description) and there's no other content.

Another page with the same issue:
https://bit.ly/2GTp9ZO
Deleted Account
But it's a simple news article which in 99.9% of cases has text in it and the ".note-body" block which usually stores text is present. I hardly believe that 2 news articles from 2016 with a slideshow represent a critical issue for which template should be declined :\
Accepted by admin
So if there will be an article with gallery without text in a future, your template will display gallery as a slideshow?
The template must predict such cases
Template #34 Issue #3
May 1, 2019
Missing image.

Another page with the same issue:
https://bit.ly/2IScitd
Deleted Account
These are pages with broken layout. If you check the HTML code of this article (and any other article, e.g.: https://www.eldestapeweb.com/con-roberto-navarro/asi-fue-el-ultimo-programa-roberto-navarro-c5n-n33597, https://www.eldestapeweb.com/inti/denuncian-escandalosas-maniobras-vaciar-el-inti-n57896, https://www.eldestapeweb.com/anses/videos-la-directora-rrhh-anses-hace-karaoke-cotillon-su-oficina-n59250), you will see that normally only one media element (<img> in this case) is stored in ".embed_content" block, so I use <figure>: //*[has-class("embed_content")] and it works properly with every article I checked.
But here it's different for one ".embed_content" block (other ".embed_content" blocks don't have this problem): it has 2 images in it (and empty ".embed_content" block after), furthermore its siblings ".embed_epigrafe" and ".embed_copyright" are duplicated. All these things indicate that the initial layout is broken. I don't think that we must create "workarounds" to solve issues of original layout.
Accepted by admin
You managed to fix it: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template45/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eldestapeweb.com%2Fmacri-presidente%2Flas-fotos-ineditas-juliana-awada-el-menemismo-n18571
Template #40 Issue #1
May 1, 2019
Incorrect link
Giovanni M.
facebook embeds containing "permalink.php" in the URL are not supported by the IV engine.

A similar issue has already been declined:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/vita.it/template14/issue2/
Declined by admin
Template #40 Issue #2
May 1, 2019
Template 34 generates an IV for this page in which there is a poll widget.
Declined by admin
Template #40 Issue #3
May 1, 2019
The creator of template 34 is trying to cheat here:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template34/issue3/


He reported the same issue to my template for this page:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template31/issue3/
and now he's trying to be clever saying that it's not important.
Please inspect the source and you will see that the missing image and the missing twitter post are caused by the same layout issue he explained in his comment.

If the issue I reported is not important then also the issue he report to me is not important and my template 31 must be returned to its previous state.
Declined by admin
Template #40 Issue #4
May 2, 2019
Giovanni M.
Twitter Timeline is one of the popular widgets that will be implemented in the near future.
If we mark them as unsupported how can they work when they are implemented?


Anyway, I will leave this template online because I really want to know admin opinion on issue #5.
Accepted by admin
Template #40 Issue #5
May 2, 2019
Giovanni M.
As far as I know a content is essential if it's necessary for the understanding of the article. The media elements I removed from the slideshow are also present in the text below, so they add nothing to the article.

I remove them only when they are not supported in the IV slideshow and they are render one after the other in the body of the Instant View. I think that seeing duplicated content can ruin user experience in some cases. Please read the complete explanation here:

https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template31/issue2/
Declined by admin
It's acceptable, if the template removes only duplicated content. The decision will be reverted, if articles with missing non-duplicated content will be provided as examples
Template #45 Issue #1
May 3, 2019
Missing video, look original site
Deleted Account
The video is present.
https://ibb.co/98fXvXG
Declined by admin
The video is in IV.
Template #49 Issue #1
May 4, 2019
Cover image is missing
Accepted by admin
Template #49 Issue #2
May 4, 2019
A lot of rudimentary content
Accepted by admin
Template #49 Issue #3
May 4, 2019
This should be formatted as blockquote
Accepted by admin
Template #48 Issue #1
May 4, 2019
This should be formatted as blockquote
Accepted by admin
Template #48 Issue #2
May 4, 2019
Accepted by admin
Template #49 Issue #4
May 4, 2019
" " is not a valid link preview description
Accepted by admin
Template #52 Issue #1
May 4, 2019
Should be transformed to correctly paragraphs
Giovanni M.
2015. Ancient lore
Declined by admin
Old source page
Template #52 Issue #2
May 4, 2019
Should no be as a cover . This block is gallery, has class "gallery... " and slider "..." https://c2n.me/41o1rt7
Giovanni M.
It's optional.

On this site there is always a gallery at the top of the page. Usually it contains only one image that they clearly use as cover.

It's safe to set this image as cover because it is outside of the body context and you can easily count the slides and wrap them in <slideshow> or not. (See also: https://bit.ly/2vCxhHE).

Checklist 6.2.2 recommends setting a cover if there's a suitable image directly below the title/subtitle.
Declined by admin
Template #45 Issue #2
May 4, 2019
Missing second related article
Deleted Account
But it's not related article. It's a link to a dynamic list of articles tagged with "Nicolás Repetto", which won't generate IV. Also it is not a part of essential content, therefore it should be removed.
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #3
May 4, 2019
Missing second related article
Giovanni M.
That link leads to a category page for which we should not generate IV.

https://www.eldestapeweb.com/nicolas-repetto-a2170
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #4
May 5, 2019
Should not be a cover, because original page contains a slideshow here - https://c2n.me/41ouyNr
Giovanni M.
Duplicate of issue #2
Declined by admin
Template #45 Issue #3
May 5, 2019
On this website there is a slideshow at the top of every page. The way this template handles it can ruin user experience.

You can see that:
1) the audio files of the slideshow are the same that are present in the article body
2) even if present in the source, these audio files are not playable in the original slideshow
3) in the IV Preview all these elements are displayed in reverse order with respect to the original. Compare them with gallery script (link below) and the article body.

In my opinion, displaying these files at the beginning and in wrong order can confuse the users. I don't speak Spanish, but I think they are all parts of the same speech, so order is important.
Since these duplicated elements are not so essential, my solution is to remove them when they are also present in the article body.

LINKS:
Script that generates the slideshow
https://pastecode.xyz/view/e3012589

Other pages with slides in reverse order
https://bit.ly/300heSi
https://bit.ly/2vBWDpn
...
Accepted by admin
Although to removed duplicated content is optional in this case, the content order is crucial.
Template #45 Issue #5
May 5, 2019
Missing unsupported twitter timeline widget - https://c2n.me/41oviWK
Deleted Account
Ancient lore.
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #5
May 5, 2019
Missing audios in slider so as on original site. Yes, I know that in this case audios are duplicated, but you can't a realiable identifiable it. There may be completely different elements (not duplicates)
Giovanni M.
There's no audio element in the slider.

This argument has been already discussed here:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template45/issue3/

It's reliable because we can compare the src attribute and if a different element exists it will be preserved.
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #6
May 5, 2019
Also, audios has a captions, but in your template it missing - https://clip2net.com/s/41oPrWL
Giovanni M.
Once again, there's no playable audio element in the original slideshow. It's legit to remove those slides, admin agreed:

https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template45/issue3/
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #7
May 5, 2019
Giovanni M.
Duplicate issue

Please read:
https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/eldestapeweb.com/template31/issue2/

On the page you linked, I keep the video because it comes from a different source.
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #8
May 5, 2019
Giovanni M.
2015. Old source page
Declined by admin
Template #52 Issue #9
May 6, 2019
Missing interactive widget (and|or target link) for "thinglink" https://c2n.me/41prG7P , target interactive content: https://clip2net.com/s/41prON0
Giovanni M.
This widget is very old and is no longer used in recent articles. I think it can be considered a non-critical issue since users won't notice this.
Accepted by admin
Giovanni M.
Searching on google I found only 8 articles that use this ThingLink on this domain. They are all from 2015-2016. Is this enough to reject an otherwise perfect template, the last for this domain?
Accepted by admin
They might use these kind of embeds in the future, so it's better to unsupport these kind of embeds.

Not generating IV is better than generating IV wrongly. Also the checklist says that all sites > 2015 must be supported.
Template #52 Issue #10
May 6, 2019
Missing unsupported playbuzz widget - https://c2n.me/41ps29M
Giovanni M.
This playbuzz widget has an old format. In fact playbuzz is usually recognized by the rules in the "..after" tab.

I think it can be considered a non-critical issue since users won't notice this issue on recent articles.
Accepted by admin
Template #52 Issue #11
May 6, 2019
Missing link "via GIPHY"
Giovanni M.
Source is optional
Accepted by admin
Giovanni M.
Why?
In the end it is rudimentary content coming from the GIPHY embed. Clicking on the widget users will reach the same page of the link.
Accepted by admin
While you are right and this could be considered rudimentary content, your template sadly got other valid issues which is why we cannot revert your template to the contest. Please take our apologies. The contest has been draining for everybody. Thanks for participating!