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Template #1 Danil Dunaitsev	Issue #1 May 26, 2017	hakim Dibaca: xx Tanggapan: yy is not part of author name, it is info of number of viewers and comments Accepted by admin The author name is incorrect. The date is missing.
Template #2 hakim	Issue #1 Jun 8, 2017	Yuriy 🐼 Panarin Unsupported table td>2 Accepted by admin The original article contains complex tables. Complex tables are unsupported content. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-8-1-tables
Template #4 Yuriy 🐼 Panarin	Issue #1 Jun 13, 2017	hakim wrong author and date Accepted by admin
Template #5 Ivan Nikitin	Issue #1 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be image caption Accepted by admin Reporter's template handles this case better: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template8/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hukumonline.com%2Fberita%2Fbaca%2Flt59251bbd52796%2Finon-conviction-based-asset-forfeiture-i-untuk-buru-aset-pelaku-investasi-ilegal
Template #6 Ruslan S	Issue #1 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be generated as IV page since table in this page just have one column and one row, can be converted as "<div>" or other html element easily Accepted by admin
Template #6 Ruslan S	Issue #2 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be generated as IV page since table in this page just have one column and one row, can be converted as "<div>" or other html element easily Declined by admin
Template #5 Ivan Nikitin	Issue #2 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be displayed as date and author Accepted by admin
Template #5 Ivan Nikitin	Issue #3 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be displayed as date and author Declined by admin Duplicated issue: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template5/issue2/
Template #5 Ivan Nikitin	Issue #4 Jun 13, 2017	hakim image caption not separate paragraph Accepted by admin
Template #6 Ruslan S	Issue #3 Jun 13, 2017	hakim should be generated as IV page Declined by admin
Template #10 Yuriy 🐼 Panarin	Issue #1 Jun 19, 2017	Ruslan S Invalid author name and date. Accepted by admin
Template #8 hakim	Issue #2 Jun 19, 2017	Ruslan S There is no image. Accepted by admin Template #9 handles it better: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template9/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hukumonline.com%2Ftalks%2Fbaca%2Flt4f503e7b94a0f%2Fcoffee-break
Template #9 Ruslan S	Issue #1 Jul 14, 2017	admin Image is missing. Accepted by admin
Template #14 Reinhart Previano	Issue #1 Feb 5, 2019	Deleted Account No article date Accepted by admin
Template #14 Reinhart Previano	Issue #2 Feb 5, 2019	Deleted Account It needs IV since embedded YouTube video is supported by IV Accepted by admin
Template #39 dotvhs	Issue #1 Feb 12, 2019	Deleted Account This is "kicker", not "subtitle". Kickers are separately formatted parts of the title. For this page, yes, kicker must exist. Checklist: The kicker property must be set if a kicker is present and its text is actually a part of the title/story dotvhs I suggest that you check what 'kicker' really is in journalism. Here's link to a dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kicker Accepted by admin Visually it's not a subtitle either. Since there's a way to parse a text above the title, in this case a kicker should be used dotvhs Sorry for sending appeal (I tried sending one before, but I think it did not send). I thought that this contest is not about visuals but about content. This part is a decision number so it's a description of the content below. However in most cases it will only say "Foto" here. Also, if you could look into the code, it's clearly marked as "article-detail-subtitle". I feel this is too subjective to be rejected for. Accepted by admin
Template #39 dotvhs	Issue #2 Feb 12, 2019	Deleted Account Kicker, not subtitle. We are using official Telegram checklist docs right? Not the other. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-5-kicker And if you say about journalism, I'm a journalist. And don't forget, in Indonesian, we know exactly what is written there. dotvhs Thank you for duplicating the issue, Mr. Journalist. I do know what's written there and this is not a kicker. How can you even compare "UBER SEX CLAIMS" to a decision number is beyond me. I will just wait for the decision. Declined by admin Duplicate
Template #34 Imam Susanto	Issue #4 Feb 13, 2019	Deleted Account Needs IV Imam Susanto Unsupported content. Accepted by admin But the Template #43 (by Praditya) supports this content well
Template #39 dotvhs	Issue #3 Feb 14, 2019	Alex It's not a kicker :D id="article-detail-subtitle" dotvhs Thank you Declined by admin
Template #44 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 14, 2019	Alex It's not a kicker :D id="article-detail-subtitle" Deleted Account We can't reliably identified part of IV from HTML tag naming scheme on this site. Here, we are using different terminology for some of IV part. This site names the IV subtitle part as "summary". Looks here: https://www.hukumonline.com/berita/baca/lt5bd9b46fd95a7/kedepankan-keselamatan Here, we also don't really know the "kicker" term which is part of Telegram IV. So, you will not find an HTML tag with the name "kicker" on this site... :P But, for me, in this case that "kicker" directly explain the title of this article and looks like a part of the title itself. Declined by admin See: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template39/issue1/
Template #46 Vasily Nazarenko	Issue #1 Feb 17, 2019	Deleted Account Broken IV Accepted by admin
Template #47 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #1 Feb 17, 2019	Deleted Account Since there is no other content here beside images itself, slideshow must not be used. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-2-3-galleries-and-slideshows Accepted by admin
Template #46 Vasily Nazarenko	Issue #2 Feb 18, 2019	dotvhs Not an article. This is SEO article with index of other articles. Accepted by admin Declined by admin Accepted by admin "Liputan khusus" means "special coverage". Links are in<div id="terbaru">. "Terbaru" means "the latest". Normally articles on this site have <div @itemprop="articleBody"> as a body. This one doesn't. It seems this page is just a list of thematically related articles. So it shouldn't generate IV
Template #48 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	dotvhs Not an article. This is SEO article with index of other articles. Deleted Account Are you sure? Are you examined the URL and also the full content properly in bahasa? This page is article which published on "Berita (news)" section or category. This also fall into "Isu Hangat (current issue)" subcategory. The index page (subcategory) for that article is: https://www.hukumonline.com/berita/isuhangat When this response was written, this article still on the first page of that index page. The index page for main category itself is in url: https://www.hukumonline.com/berita From that main category page, you can input "21 September 2018" as search parameter and you will notice that this article will show then. FYI, Online media in Indonesia often make this kind of news (summaries) by linking other news links in their publications. Clearly this is article that you must support in IV. Declined by admin Accepted by admin "Liputan khusus" means "special coverage". Links are in<div id="terbaru">. "Terbaru" means "the latest". Normally articles on this site have <div @itemprop="articleBody"> as a body. This one doesn't. It seems this page is just a list of thematically related articles. So it shouldn't generate IV Deleted Account <div id="terbaru"> doesn't mean the latest on this context. This is "static" content that never change. You can compare similar page version from the first time it is published until now. Compare (with): 1. https://www.hukumonline.com/berita/baca/lt559a6b15a530a/kasus-engeline 2. https://web.archive.org/web/20180630060848/http://www.hukumonline.com/berita/baca/lt559a6b15a530a/kasus-engeline Author manually add relevant links at that time to this article (not dynamic). If you mention about @itemprop="articleBody", this page also doesn't has that: https://www.hukumonline.com/berita/bacafoto/lt5c544d6a940f2/kpk-perpanjang-masa-penahanan-taufik-kurniawan If you said that this page like a list of thematically related articles, then it can presented as IV and we can wrap that links under <related> block, right? This case, can we identified this article as "single-image" article with related articles block (or presented as is) since this page HAS published_date and author? Index usually didn't have date-author. Accepted by admin The page shouldn't have IV, since it's not an article, it's list of articles.
Template #49 Alex	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	dotvhs Should be supported. Accepted by admin
Template #50 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #1 Feb 18, 2019	dotvhs Missing IV Accepted by admin
Template #48 Deleted Account	Issue #2 Feb 18, 2019	dotvhs You proved my point in the previous issue. This is not an article, this is an index of other articles that are connected to the topic. And yes, I researched it, thank you for noticing. Deleted Account https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template48/issue1/ Let's wait for the admin assessment as before ... :)) Declined by admin
Template #51 dotvhs	Issue #1 Feb 20, 2019	Nikita Tsyhankov Static links to another articles in site. Definitely related. dotvhs I do have all related articles included, exactly ones you highlighted. But the rest while they look to be static, they don't seem related. If you read the article you will see. Declined by admin
Template #51 dotvhs	Issue #2 Feb 20, 2019	Nikita Tsyhankov Captions presented as regular p dotvhs Because they are indistinguishable in the source and matching these will endqnger the content. Declined by admin Not identifiable
Template #51 dotvhs	Issue #3 Feb 21, 2019	Deleted Account Site name on Link Preview mixed with section/category post name Accepted by admin
Template #56 Deleted Account	Issue #1 Feb 21, 2019	dotvhs There is no time anywhere in the source code. Author added it on his own. Deleted Account Not by me, it is generated by @datetime function with timezone Accepted by admin There is no time data in the original article. It seems it's displayed because of the template bug Deleted Account We can't formatted the output generated by @datetime function. This is my code: @datetime(+7, "id-ID", "EEEE, dd-MMMM-yyyy") (Please see yourself the complete code). Looks, I have inputted no time in that pattern. But, the function generated itself. I'm used +7 timezone for all datetime on the whole site since this is +7 UTC site. Clearly, it is not template bug. Accepted by admin
Template #58 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #1 Feb 21, 2019	dotvhs IV is missing. Accepted by admin
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #1 Feb 24, 2019	Alex May be handled as related articles, my template do it dotvhs May be, but with great risk endangering all the content since it's not marked in the code, those are added by hand inside the article. I'm sorry Alex, I won't take that risk. Been there, done that and it always somewhere breaks the content. I do have related content at the bottom though. Declined by admin These are simple <p> paragraphs. No need to format them. As .vsh just said it comes with quite some risk.
Template #63 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #1 Feb 24, 2019	Alex May be handled as related articles, my template do it Declined by admin See https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue1/ for a detailed answer
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #2 Feb 24, 2019	Alex May be handled like related articles, my template do it fine. p.s. .vhs lol it's reliable You can use something like this ;) @map <related>:$body//p[.//strong[starts-with(text(), "Baca:")]]/next-sibling::ul[.//li//strong//a][1] I think that if this word (Baca: = Read:) exists with a colon and then there is a list with links, then everything is obvious. dotvhs I wrote everything here, Alex: https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue1/ There is no point of adding these for this single article. Thank you for your code and your passion. Declined by admin Duplicate issue https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue1/
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #3 Feb 24, 2019	Alex And visually it's subtitle dotvhs This was already disputed many times in previous issues and everyone settled that this is too long for being a subtitle and also I think one of the native speakers said it's not a subtitle. Declined by admin The class of that element is "article-detail-summary" - so it's rather a summary. The checklist says: Few publications actually use subtitles. Somewhat more common are short summary sentences that are also shown below the title (and are called standfirst by the British). These summary sentences are usually short and are not part of the article's text. It is advisable but not required to represent them as subtitle elements. https://instantview.telegram.org/checklist#6-1-3-subtitle
Template #63 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #2 Feb 24, 2019	Alex Subtitle Declined by admin See https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue3 for a detailed answer.
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #4 Feb 24, 2019	Alex Should be subtitle p.s. .vhs here is a cheat sheet for you: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/34516701/33976615-2cda13b4-e0bc-11e7-9be4-3dd85eb41d44.png dotvhs Thank you Alex. However, if you translate this, you will see that it's not a subtitle at all. Also, Preditya whose this is native language also did not use it as subtitle. In your example here it contains two sentences. But I can link you an article where there are 5, 6 or even 7 sentences. This is not a subtitle, I'm sorry :( Declined by admin Duplicate - see https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue3
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #5 Feb 24, 2019	Alex and it should not be <b> dotvhs Well okay, Alex, but according to rules: "Many publications use a slightly different style for their lead paragraphs. Unlike subtitles and summaries, the lead paragraph is a part of the article's text. Even if the lead uses a different style from the rest of the text, it is less desirable to present it as a subtitle — but this is not critical. We will not accept issues on templates for presenting the lead paragraph as the subtitle in IV. If the lead paragraph uses a different style, it is recommended to use bold or italic text (we will not accept issues based on the absence of such formatting). " Declined by admin
Template #63 Nikita Tsyhankov	Issue #3 Feb 24, 2019	Alex and it should not be <b> Declined by admin See https://instantview.telegram.org/contest/hukumonline.com/template59/issue5 for a detailed answer.
Template #59 dotvhs	Issue #6 Mar 2, 2019	admin Original paragraph separation should be preserved since in the actual IV it's possible to copy only paragraphs. See: https://telegra.ph/file/65c9af64fb88c792f616d.png Accepted by admin

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